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I have a new strategy....

chubb-o-wub

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And I don't want anyone taking it or spreading the news of a godly strategy, got it?

Tyranitar@lefties
Brave
EV/ 252 HP/ 252 Att/ 6 Def
-Stone Edge
-Earthquake
-Crunch
-Taunt

Oh, a new Tyranitar set I see? Why Brave? Why no DD? Let's ask Bronzong...

Bronzong@lefties
Sassy
EV/ 252 HP/ 152 Att/ 104 Def
-Gyro Ball
-Earthquake
-Hypnosis
-Trick Room

Aha! This godly stragety is a Sandstorm/Trick Room team! Evil, I say, EVIL!!! :demon:

Rhyperior@lefties
Adamant
EV/ 252 HP/ 252 Att/ 6 Def
-Earthquake
-Stone Edge
-Megahorn
-Hammer Arm

I'll give the short end for Rhyperior. Sandstorm's spdef boost + Trick Room's speed boost = best thing since sliced bread.

Cradily@lefties
Quiet
EV/ 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 6 Spatk
-Rest
-Sleep Talk
-Hidden Power Electric
-Energy Ball

Special Wall that kills all Water type problems with this team.

Heatran@Choice Specs
Modest
EV/ 252 Spatk/ 252 Spd/ 6 HP
-Overheat
-Flamethrower
-Dragon Pulse
-Land Power

Other pokemon on this team that revolves around spatk and kills off Skarmory with one Overheat (not to mention anything else that doesn't resist it). Land Power for other Heatran, Flamethrower for late-game stuff, and Dragon Pulse for coverage.

Claydol@lefties
Relaxed
EV/ 252 HP/ 252 Def/ 6 Spatk
-Trick Room
-Stealth Rock
-Rapid Spin
-Shadow Ball

Other Trick Room user. Stealth Rock & Rapid Spin for support and Shadow Ball to kill any Ghost that tries to block my Rapid Spin.
 

Metadour-2

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!!! You stole my cradily!


other than that, this is quite neat.
Me likes =)

If only you didn't have to rely on T-tar for sandstorm so much.

i would comment further, but i have no time.

I say 8.5 out of ten, only reason why it's that low is cause you stole cradily. STOLE IT!
 

shadydentist

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Heatran is not uber.

Its just... you have an insane number of shared weaknesses. 4 weak to water (no resist), 3 weak to grass (2 resist), 3 weak to ice (2 resist), 4 weak to fighting (1 resist), 3 weak to ground (2 immune), 3 weak to bug (1 resist), and 3 weak to steel (2 resist). Seriously, its entirely possible for one pokemon to have attacks that are super effective against your entire team.

dd/taunt gyarados with earthquake and waterfall could make things difficult for your team.

Just saying... when you have 4 shared weaknesses, it could get real ugly. Especially when you have more than one 4 shared weaknesses.
 

IC3R

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Heatran is not uber.

Its just... you have an insane number of shared weaknesses. 4 weak to water (no resist), 3 weak to grass (2 resist), 3 weak to ice (2 resist), 4 weak to fighting (1 resist), 3 weak to ground (2 immune), 3 weak to bug (1 resist), and 3 weak to steel (2 resist). Seriously, its entirely possible for one pokemon to have attacks that are super effective against your entire team.

dd/taunt gyarados with earthquake and waterfall could make things difficult for your team.

Just saying... when you have 4 shared weaknesses, it could get real ugly. Especially when you have more than one 4 shared weaknesses.
Well, that's what happens when you make a theme team...

So you have to be able to cover it up.

The Trick Roomed Cradily can hit Gyara pretty hard with HP Electric. And there's several Rock attacks on the team.

T-tar's Taunt can prevent Gyar from DDing, or he could just Stone Edge it into oblivion with its massive power if Gyar Taunts first...(0_0)
 

outofdashdwz

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Seriously, its entirely possible for one pokemon to have attacks that are super effective against your entire team.

dd/taunt gyarados with earthquake and waterfall could make things difficult for your team.

Just saying... when you have 4 shared weaknesses, it could get real ugly. Especially when you have more than one 4 shared weaknesses.
Slowbro also hits a large majority of those weaknesses and he gets special points for outspeeding your entire team. Starmie is in the same boat but is not as much of a problem with Trick Room. Standard Electivire hits 5 of your team for super effective, and 2 of them are 4x, but again, it's too fast to be a threat to Trick Room.

Well, that's what happens when you make a theme team...

So you have to be able to cover it up.

The Trick Roomed Cradily can hit Gyara pretty hard with HP Electric. And there's several Rock attacks on the team.

T-tar's Taunt can prevent Gyar from DDing, or he could just Stone Edge it into oblivion with its massive power if Gyar Taunts first...(0_0)
Just because your team revolves around Sandstorm doesn't mean your entire team has to be immune to it. On a majority of competitive sand teams, usually 2-3 of the Pokemon on the team get hit by the sand yet they still function perfectly well.

Right now, I'm seeing **** by mixed Infernape with Close Combat/Grass Knot/Nasty Plot/Fire Blast, because if it gets in a Nasty Plot, your team is pretty much gone. Bronzong without Heat Proof doesn't stand a chance, and Claydol takes 101% minimum from Grass Knot after a Nasty Plot. I'm assuming you won't be keeping Tyranitar in against Infernape, so that's a free Nasty Plot if Infernape starts. You pretty much have to outpredict and keep switching, having Claydol and Heatran absorb this thing's beating until it dies to Sandstorm + Life Orb.
 

chubb-o-wub

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Heatran is not uber.

Its just... you have an insane number of shared weaknesses. 4 weak to water (no resist), 3 weak to grass (2 resist), 3 weak to ice (2 resist), 4 weak to fighting (1 resist), 3 weak to ground (2 immune), 3 weak to bug (1 resist), and 3 weak to steel (2 resist). Seriously, its entirely possible for one pokemon to have attacks that are super effective against your entire team.

dd/taunt gyarados with earthquake and waterfall could make things difficult for your team.

Just saying... when you have 4 shared weaknesses, it could get real ugly. Especially when you have more than one 4 shared weaknesses.
And there's why I have Cradily and Heatran. Cradily kills all water pokemon and most ground pokemon when Trick Room is in, Heatran has a 4x resist to grass, bug, and ice as well as killing them or whatever switches in with Overheat. All I would have aproblem with is Slowbro utilizing Calm Mind and Trick Room (but who uses both on one Slowbro ;) ). Rhyperior could kill it with a Megahorn if it switches in, but ither than that, the only thing that could turn this team around is some pokemon that makes use of both Sandstorm and Trick Room, uses Fire/Fighting/Water type moves well, and nail Rhyperior and Tyranitar with one fatal blow. The only pokemon I could see doing that would be Slowbro meant to counter this. Anything thing else that I should watch out for? Oh, and if there is something, can you name a pokemon that works with the theme of the team?

EDIT - Couldn't I just kill Infernape with any of my 3 pokemon knowing ground type moves when Trick Room is in play?
 

Wii4Mii 99

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I just took a quick look at your team, and realized that both of your Trick Roomers are KOed by SpecsMence. Trick Room is the only way to speed-up your team. With your Trick Roomer out of the way, your slow team could be swept, mainly by Infernape or Starmie. As outofdashz said, Infernape itself can also dismantle your Trick Roomers.

I recommend using Slowbro as a Trick Roomer. It's a sturdy Trick Roomer that can help against the Gyarados and Garchomp weakness you have.

Until wii meet again,
Wii4Mii 99
 

chubb-o-wub

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Okay, so if I use Slowbro, who should I replace? It's either Bronzong or Claydol. Bronzong puts thing to sleep, or get rid of Claydol who sets and gets rid of Stealth Rock. Other than that, all I would need would be is a Trick Room set for Slowbro. Any suggestions?
 
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