RoyalRook
Smash Journeyman
Ness is helpless!!!! His recovery is just not up to the par, way to0 easy for an easy kill, especially against a good player. How fitting is that his yo yo is actually improved but spike is still so so.
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Fail.Ness is helpless!!!! His recovery is just not up to the par, way to0 easy for an easy kill, especially against a good player. How fitting is that his yo yo is actually improved but spike is still so so.
I wouldn't ask someone with a WARIO picture (joke) , but I main Ness (in melee) and I usual win, My brother just tried him out and he said that he was good.Ness is helpless!!!! His recovery is just not up to the par, way to0 easy for an easy kill, especially against a good player. How fitting is that his yo yo is actually improved but spike is still so so.
I love Ness spike, but that can't be his saving grace. I know exactly how annoying his fair can be, I used to main Mewtwo in Melee b/c of that shadow claw thingy, so I basically figured out how to counter it, you just have to be calm. But Ness' recovery is just way too risky, anyone who has played Melee knows how to piss off a good Ness. Let me just put this way: I can comfortable say that there is a fat chance that a Ness could die under 5% damage. And you know it's true.Except that doesn't prove anything, because Lucas's recovery is just as bad.
Also, Ness's spike is one of the best in the game, outclassed in power only by Ganondorf, and his speed is much MUCH higher than Ganondorf's. His recovery may be pretty bad still, but it's one of the most powerful attacks in the entire game, especially now that it's been buffed in every single way from the tail to the actual attack, to the lag afterwards.
He has excellent range with his fair, and high comboability with his nair, uair, and bair. His PK attacks allows for surprises, especially PK Fire and PK Thunder, and he's deceptively heavy. He might not be top tier, but he is a GREAT character.
Basically what Ademisk said.I love Ness spike, but that can't be his saving grace. I know exactly how annoying his fair can be, I used to main Mewtwo in Melee b/c of that shadow claw thingy, so I basically figured out how to counter it, you just have to be calm. But Ness' recovery is just way too risky, anyone who has played Melee knows how to piss off a good Ness. Let me just put this way: I can comfortable say that there is a fat chance that a Ness could die under 5% damage. And you know it's true.
Finally I think the problem for me is that I never played Mother 1 + 2, so I don't have any love for the kid, otherwise I would at least try to figure him or Lucas out. But I am trying.
Let's see...I suppose continuously jumping to do fairs and bairs the whole freakin time isn't gay? Not to mention spamming the P-Gay Thundah! My strategy isn't gay, it's just that you are too predictable. Think out of the box. With or without lag, your strategy is TOO predictable. I always expect you to jump and attempt his air attacks and so I roll and throw you away or put you in a chain grab(you always set yourself up for it). The other times I roll is to dodge your dash attacks and smash attacks. I'm not supposed to stand there and let you pummel me nor am I supposed to please you with any strategy I may have. You can blame lag, but I can guarantee you it would NOT be any differentThat's because you use the gayest Dedede strategy EVER. Rollspam into Waddledee throw repeated across the stage and back. If it weren't for lag, I swear to god, your *** would be grass. Not even kidding.
What happened? Not blaming lag for MK. I've already caught on to the MK spam, I'm just learning how to cope with it. But why bring MK into this, since after all it's about Ness. When I roll away and throw Waddle Dees, I create distance between me and you while attempting to do damage at the same time. When you get past that, I just dodge your attack attempts and throw you or use a smash attack or roll away and throw more Dees. You talk as if you don't do the same thing over and over, when in fact you do. Rolling is defense and I use that to the fullest depending on my opponents. I dk about the lag part(I got a gaming router), seeing as on my TV screen it plays as if I were playing an offline match. You can guarantee all you want as well, b/c it wouldn't make much of a difference anyway. I just came here to share my opinion, not to argue. And no, you are not the only Ness player I fight, though there is a rare few.I can guarantee you it would, my strategy is predictable, you do the exact same thing every single time, you roll away until you're at the edge of a stage, and then you throw waddle dees. You are almost never not rolling. Let's see exactly what I can't do to your strategy because of lag.
I can't approach in the air because my airdodges are constantly late, I can't approach on ground because I can't powershield, I can't do ANYTHING useful with PK Thunder because it's almost impossible to control through lag, I can't predict your rolls and punish because my attacks always come out late.
On the bright side, I was able to beat your *** with Metakngiht because his Neutral B destroys rolls. Love that thing so much. Unfortunately, Ness doesn't have such a failsafe attack, so fighting a rollspamming Dedede like that under that much lag is nearly impossible.
And you can guarantee all you want, watch me do it.
I guarantee I would win without lag. < -- See? Easy.
I've MK spammed just about all my opponents before at some point, so I don't see how it never works. I'm not going to kiss your *** and come here everyday just to ask you if you approve of my strategy. I don't give a rat's *** what you think about it, all I know is that apparently it must be good b/c even against unlaggy opponents, I still win. And no, don't even give me that "Oh you just play against n00bs" BS, b/c these people are pretty good. I came here to share my opinion and I still think Claus would've been a better addition, nothing you can do will change my opinion? OK?Yeah, if you're not getting lag at all, then I'm at an insane disadvantage
And I brought up the MK point because it's not THAT I beat you with Metaknight, it's how. Spamming that move never works against anyone, and it only worked because your strategy is, at best, mildly ********. I tried everything Ness can possibly to do beat you, my basic strategy of approaching with midair DIed fairs may have been similiar, but my strategy wildly differed at different parts of the match.
QFTNess's PKT2 is horrible for recovery. You can get in the way of it, and....you might die, but you'll kill Ness too, because hitting people shortens his recovery range.
Although we may argue(we're rivals, sorta), listen to him. He plays a really good Ness. Your best bet for tips is this guy all the way. Possibly the best Ness ever, but he's the best Ness I know.I could send you video of my Ness with your Wii Code, I'll send it to you next time I get some, I'll PM you my Wii code then.
Who are you talking about me or Ademisk?Although we may argue(we're rivals, sorta), listen to him. He plays a really good Ness. Your best bet for tips is this guy all the way. Possibly the best Ness ever, but he's the best Ness I know.
I'm talking about Ademisk, b/c I've never played against you before. I don't know exactly how you play.Who are you talking about me or Ademisk?
Maybe you should play me and see what's upI'm talking about Ademisk, b/c I've never played against you before. I don't know exactly how you play.