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How to get better?

rustyw

Smash Cadet
Joined
Aug 1, 2007
Messages
72
Definitely agreed wtih Tom Bombadil: when you start doing advanced tech you get worse before you get better. For me, that's been because advanced techs requires more thinking about the game.

Firstly, character attacks, defense, and movement all match up relatively evenly when nobody is Z-cancelling, fastfalling, etc. But when one player uses advanced techs and the other doesn't, that balance of timing--borne out by the "casual" mechanics inherent in the game--is now thrown off. Secondly, mastering these advanced techniques allows the advanced player more control over the timing of attacks, defenses, and movement. This allows for *~hella sick~* comboing, but it also requires much more focus and planning because there are now many more choices the advanced player must make about timing. A casual player limited by his lack of technical skill has only a few possible options for timing his moves, so he doesn't need to think about it as much.

I wouldn't say the lesson here is to not be egotistical or greedy; I think it's more about remembering that different aspects of this game make simultaneous and different demands on a limited reserve of intellectual resources. You'll need get into the mindset, then, of prioritizing your brain's resources toward playing strategically/optimally instead of pulling off advanced techniques. Poor strategy, for most games of Smash, will be a much stricter bottleneck than technical skill will be if you want to win.
 

Eaarrl

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jun 3, 2013
Messages
15
Location
Los Angeles, California
Definitely agreed wtih Tom Bombadil: when you start doing advanced tech you get worse before you get better. For me, that's been because advanced techs requires more thinking about the game.

Firstly, character attacks, defense, and movement all match up relatively evenly when nobody is Z-cancelling, fastfalling, etc. But when one player uses advanced techs and the other doesn't, that balance of timing--borne out by the "casual" mechanics inherent in the game--is now thrown off. Secondly, mastering these advanced techniques allows the advanced player more control over the timing of attacks, defenses, and movement. This allows for *~hella sick~* comboing, but it also requires much more focus and planning because there are now many more choices the advanced player must make about timing. A casual player limited by his lack of technical skill has only a few possible options for timing his moves, so he doesn't need to think about it as much.

I wouldn't say the lesson here is to not be egotistical or greedy; I think it's more about remembering that different aspects of this game make simultaneous and different demands on a limited reserve of intellectual resources. You'll need get into the mindset, then, of prioritizing your brain's resources toward playing strategically/optimally instead of pulling off advanced techniques. Poor strategy, for most games of Smash, will be a much stricter bottleneck than technical skill will be if you want to win.
I was waiting for a while to test this out to reply but yeah. I still miss a couple of Z cancels here and there and still roll more that I should but I think that should change with practice.The gap between me and my brother is pretty significant now. He beats me maybe 2 out of 6 games when I actually try.
 

MrMarbles

Smash Lord
Joined
Apr 4, 2013
Messages
1,381
Location
Orlando, FL
I was waiting for a while to test this out to reply but yeah. I still miss a couple of Z cancels here and there and still roll more that I should but I think that should change with practice.The gap between me and my brother is pretty significant now. He beats me maybe 2 out of 6 games when I actually try.
gj man sounds like you progressed pretty quickly. keep up the practice and he wont be able to beat u at all
 

B Link

Smash Lord
Joined
Sep 26, 2007
Messages
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Location
Toronto, Ontario
Do you go Link vs his Pikachu a lot? You should realize that that's one of the most uneven match-ups in the game, even when you're good.

Stick with your Kirby if you wanna go 6-0.
 

Eaarrl

Smash Rookie
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Los Angeles, California
gj man sounds like you progressed pretty quickly. keep up the practice and he wont be able to beat u at all
Summer vacation man. I think all I need to master is DI and I'll probably be the best ever!!!! Jk I can't seem to apply DI properly so that's all I've been practicing.
 

Eaarrl

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jun 3, 2013
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Do you go Link vs his Pikachu a lot? You should realize that that's one of the most uneven match-ups in the game, even when you're good.

Stick with your Kirby if you wanna go 6-0.
Yeah I quit on Link a while ago. I love using him but his recovery is just so bad. If I'm at 60 percent I basically done. lol I main Kirby now. I'm practicing my Fox and Falcon though
 

Cobrevolution

Smash Master
Joined
Feb 8, 2012
Messages
3,178
Location
nj
Yeah I quit on Link a while ago. I love using him
then you should not have quit on him

i mean i guess if you LOVE using kirby - somehow - stay at it. but if you don't enjoy him as much as you do link, work on your link until you can safely destroy your brother. and playing online will really help you with matchups and stuff.

never forget: play for fun

oh and work on ledge di
 

asianaussie

Smash Hero
Joined
Mar 14, 2008
Messages
9,337
Location
Sayonara Memories
link vs pikachu is great, tell them outright it's top 5 worst matchups in the game and they will become so nervous to lose that they will actually lose sometimes
 

mixa

Banned via Warnings
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Jun 6, 2012
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Isle of ゆぅ
Yeah I quit on Link a while ago. I love using him but I main Kirby now.
Stronk characters.
Weak characters.
That is only the selfish perception of people.
Truly skilled players should try to win with their favorites.
 

WOTG

Banned via Warnings
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Feb 16, 2009
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710
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Katy, Texas
Watch lots of videos of good people playing, study them, pay attention to what they do in situations and implement into your game. Just play A LOT, against CPUs for practice, and against decent people and people better than you. Eventually you'll learn with experience on what to do. Also pay attention to what you do, and if it's working or not, sometimes you have to change the way you play to adapt.

Another thing, try to focus on learning the game and how to be better, don't focus on trying to beat people, you'll peak faster and limit what you learn if you only care about finding ways to win.
 

MrMarbles

Smash Lord
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Orlando, FL
Another thing, try to focus on learning the game and how to be better, don't focus on trying to beat people, you'll peak faster and limit what you learn if you only care about finding ways to win.
wow ive never thought of it like that but it makes sense. i'm gonna work on this myself
 
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