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if you do it right, you can ledge trump them and then do a double jump bair that lands on the stage (and auto cancels), if they dont DI or try to go straight to the stage, they get hit, otherwise they are forced to recover and you have landed with an autocancel so you are ready to dsmash their recovery. You can almost effectively cover both options.That option is very risky anyway. If I ledge trump, I wait for a recovery then punish respectively(high recovery:Up air, Grab ledge:up tilt/d smash etc).