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How to deal with dodge happy players.

EarthBound18

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I have difficulties punishing players who do nothing but spot dodge(Fox,Mario,Pits) or spam dodge in the air (Kirby,Lucas,Ness) Now I can use Shadow ball however all of these characters have a reflector and they can just reflect it back. I have more trouble dealing with players who play "silly" rather than players who actually play good, simply because the WIFI lag. Any suggestions on punishing spot dodges as Mewtwo?
 

Sonicninja115

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Reads, it's all about the reads. If you read their dodge then you can charge a smash. If they air dodge too much you can punish their landing lag with Mewtwo's frame 9 Usmash.
 

SafCar

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Play off of Wi-Fi, first of all. Second of all, read the rolls. It's more difficult as Mewtwo, but it's as simple as a Fsmash towards their roll.
 

EarthBound18

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Play off of Wi-Fi, first of all. Second of all, read the rolls. It's more difficult as Mewtwo, but it's as simple as a Fsmash towards their roll.
I do but I have no one to play with or I am just waiting for something I hope on the forbidden Glory, Mewtwo attacks kept visually missing Lucas for I don't know why, the player would just spam jump and air dodge which was confusing me more than anything.
 

meleebrawler

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Nair is what you should primarily be using against excessive airdodging. Dsmash is also a fairly safe way to try to get a read on a roll.
 

AlMoStLeGeNdArY

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Nair is what you should primarily be using against excessive airdodging. Dsmash is also a fairly safe way to try to get a read on a roll.
I was just about to say this....umm you can catch spotdodges with jab 2. So if you hav someone and notice a spotdodge just hold the jab and you'll catch em.

If you think that your opponent is going to air dodge you can just wait for it and then punish. Uair bair or nair are good for this. You can even use fair depending on positions.
 

Y2Kay

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I do but I have no one to play with or I am just waiting for something I hope on the forbidden Glory, Mewtwo attacks kept visually missing Lucas for I don't know why, the player would just spam jump and air dodge which was confusing me more than anything.
Anther's Ladder and the social threads here are some great places to find matches. I barely play for glory, especially since I play the 3ds version and the lag their tends to be worse. If you really wanna play competitively, you should give up for glory (or at least most of the time)
 
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