how to approach with marth

[APESAUCE]

how to approach the whole cast, especially shiek and ness. i usually dd and wait for a mistake and punish, but when i play good players and try to approach with a shffld fair i get shield grabbed.

 

[Azureflames]

The trick is to never actually approach with SHFFL fair, it's incredibly punishable. Generally you want to limit approaching as marth to dash-dance > tilt or grab. For sheik i know that empty short hops and really well spaced Fair SHFFL's are important to utilize, but not for aggressive engage. The mindset as i understand it is to force sheik into feeling pressured and box/zone her out with fairs to give her less room to camp with needles, while also avoiding sheik shenanigans in the process.

 

[Armant Natu]

Approaching should only be done with dash dancing. Aggressively pushing stage control and punishing them only if they're dumb enough to get into your range. If they're on the ground, grab them or down tilt. If they go in the air, use whatever aerial you need to keep mixing it up and cover the options.

 

[Armant Natu]

Shffling isn't exactly what you want to be doing all the time. It should be used more for defensive maneuvers and retreating fairs. Marth's main objective is usually to stay grounded until they go in the air.

 

[haru-zocole]

marth main approach should be to dash dance in and scare them with your presence. armant.natu said it quite nice

 

[APESAUCE]

ok will practice and watch more marth gameplay, if you have any notable videos you have seen please post them here.

 

[Retrolistic]

D-tilts and JC grabs from dash dancing can be a start. But it really comes down to the matchup, aha.
Staying grounded is sooooo important being Marth. I know everyone wants to do the cool air combos and Fair people to death from a Ken combo, but like stated already, it can be unsafe.

 

[Deleted member]

ok will practice and watch more marth gameplay, if you have any notable videos you have seen please post them here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAyMqJPY8jI

matches 2 and 3

 

[APESAUCE]

ok so i have been practicing a lot lately. been working on my DD jc grabs/dtilts.

also watched this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfuVQN5cwy0

have been practicing my short hop double fairs. i get them around 90% rn.

i have my dd jc grabs down now! thanks for the tips guys!!!! i can do double fairs almost every time now in practice, but having a hard time implementing them into my real game

 

[Honor]

This seemed like as a good a place as any to ask the question about one's mentality when playing Marth. As a Smash player in general I tend to have a very aggressive style. I feel like this bite me in the back as a Marth main but I wonder if it's me or if Marth is meant to be played in a more defensive and reactive way?

Thoughts please

 

[APESAUCE]

i think its ok to be aggressive and get stage control but don't throw a lot of dash attacks. stick to dtilts

 

[SwisshySwaash]

how would you approach in a marth ditto?

 

[APESAUCE]

now i approach with dtilts and grabs and a lot of dding. and if they throw out an fmash ill fair them in marth dittos.

 

[NinfanNanz]

How does Marth Approach Kirby? I struggle to find any openings.

 

[waygu]

Like stated above dd grab or dtilt but with Kirby I had a very hard time until I found his dash grab picks up Kirby while standing wont, meaning you can dd boost grab that little ****. Some of his moves are laggy, specials and dash attack, fair is telegraphed etc.

 

[Spralwers]

the main way you "approach" most characters is WD in-> tipper dtilt, especially if they insist on staying grounded. if you miss, retreat immediately. if you hit their shield, retreat if you're in their shield grab range (only happens if you don't hit with tipper), but otherwise keep poking to deal shield damage. with proper dtilt pressure you might force them to jump, which is when you can go for stronger but more vulnerable conversion options like fair. run in dtilt also works but that requires more of a hard read on their movement, as well as dd grab.

 

[APESAUCE]

the less tipper the better for dtilt setups btw, ppu has a video on this somewhere.