How many Charcters is there gonna be in Brawl?

[Paranoid_Android]

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How many characters ARE there gonna be in brawl. If you have time to display your complete lack of the understanding of the English language, you have time to get better at it.

 

[SubparSmashBrother]

In SSB64 there was 12 characters (8 starters 4 unlockables)
In Melee there is 25 characters (14 starters and 11 unlockables where 6 were clones)
If you are following the pattern it would be:

Around 38-50 (38 because 25+12=38 and 50 because 25 was almost twice 12 hence 50 being twice of 25)
That is in starters: 22-28
and unlockables: 16-22
Hopefully no clones or at least only 1-2

I know its all based on the former games, but I could see it coming.

No, if you follow the pattern there will be 54 characters. There were 8 starters in SSB64, and 14 in Melee. That's 7/4 as many starters, so there will be 7/4 as many starters in Brawl, which is about 24. There were 4 unlockable characters in SSB64, and 11 in SSBM. That's 11/4 as many, so there will be 11/4 as many unlockables in Brawl which would be about 30. 30 + 24 = 54!!! OMG PROOF!

My point is, you can't tell a pattern by just 2 sequences.

 

[Amaggad]

hopefully 40 - 50

 

[specialsauce]

i say 34- 40 would be a safe bet at most 45, thinking theyll be 50 for sure could lead u to be very dissipointed when theres not. still 40's a lot of characters especially when u have so many new additions like ike, diddy kong and pokemon trainer which are most likely just starters

 

[C00P]

"I just want balance. Give me 3 new characters, and make the game more balanced and its fine. If it's melee non balanced, I'm returning it."

Melee? Unbalanced? >Slap< It was incredibly balanced. The pull of that game was that anyone could win... Of course some characters were slower, less responsive... but I've had friends pull some crazy **** with Donkey Kong. Bowser, Ness and Yoshi are the only characters who really are not up to par. (Even still I have seen impressive fights with them)

The best people I have ever seen play can fight incredibly well with almost any character. There may be only 4 characters commonly used in tourny style play... but I've seen some random fights where someone gets creative and suddenly a Fox user is on their knees at the hands of someone using a much slower character.

As for my original post, I am not making a prediction... i'm just saying that this game has the potential to set a new standard for fighting games. I have read to many replies saying that it would be too hard to do XX number of characters. Sadley the greatest things in life are actually hard to accomplish.

This game will sell millions even if it sucks... That being said... this game could be top 10 of all time if created properly. A top 10 game of all time will have unlimited replay value something a bigger roster helps with. The more playable characters the more the game allows people to get creative with those characters who are "lower tier" and maybe tourny's can even be divided by weight class seeming that size may play a larger factor in this game.

Honestly... I'm just saying what could make this game great. I could think logically or realisticly but the best games of time broke barriers and offered something that no other games could. As much as I would be happy with a statistical sequal with average add-ons/upgrades/tweaks. This could be a new smash bros. where the deep gameplay of melee is multiplied by adding options never thought of and characters that everyone could identify with (Aggresive/Defensive/Air Based Combat/Speed/Strength etc....and all those in between)

There is no one but the creators of this game who can tell us how many characters will be in this. And if they actually are looking to make a great new game they will put the effort in it and add more than average. Anything less and this game will be just another expansion looking for another cash grab before Sakurai is done with the series... Which I will still buy

 

[Zinfandel]

Let's do this again... READ THROUGH THIS, AS I AM TRYING TO USE REASON!

Smash 64: Original 12 commence battling, and a holy constant of Nintendo culture is born. We have a new IP, and what an IP it is!

Melee: We now get 14 new combatants but...

Hark?! Quod?!?!?! 8 are new, if one counts Sheik and Zelda as separate (as well we should!), but 6 - The Dr., The King of Evil, one of the FE duo, Pichu (who doesn't deserve a new title), the pre-pubescent Hero of Time and The Surliest Wingman EVAR- are but polygon shells donned by the wireframes of finished fighters, mimicking their styles to a near tee! Deception. Subterfuge. *Cloning*. Yahweh frowned upon this tampering with nature, as did we. We still bought the game by the tons, and loved the heck out of it. As did Yahweh.

Brawl: As the world now awaits the Third Coming (this period of waiting nearly as pleasant as eating ones own lips) we ponder on the final tally. Last time we saw 14 new faces, and 8 truly new choices. Out of the additions to the roster, 57 % consisted of all-new fighters, 43 % were *clones*.

Now, seeing as every increase may be larger than the last (from 12 new faces to 14 new faces) we can expect something in the region of 16-20 new faces (depending on Sakurai's priorities, which it would be folly to try and debate). However, it would be easier to begin with estimating that no more than 60 % of these be non-clones, am I right? If so, assuming 60 % we can "expect" 10 -12 characters to be brand new.

Thus far we have 8: Zamus, Snake, MK, Ike, Pit, Wario, Diddy and Trainer, all of which beyond doubt have unique movesets. Now, while it would make sense to show off the non-clones for the sake of pre-release buzz, it could be a good move to show off clones first and show the good stuff later. Once again, the updates so far have not been very predictable, I would say. Anyway, it would be strange if Sakurai showed off 8 of the fresh faces so soon, no? This unsettles my thesis somewhat.

With my increase in mind we would have 42-46 characters, 12 to 14 clones, thus making for 30-32 brand new faces. But, as I've said, patterns are difficult to pin down.

Also, the (in)famous Gamefaqs oracle said we would have 34 faces MINUS clones, and 15 new ones MINUS clones (or, in his phrasing, transformations). In order to fit this in, six from Melee have to have been removed.

On the other hand, the only thing in his favor is the prediction about the vet and the newcomer, and since there was a precedent of two characters in one week following a week with no new characters we must be veeeeery cautious...

Anyway, pleeease give me input, and it would be nice if anybody could inform me whether there is a thread that deals mathematically with the roster problem, since otherwise I'll make a new thread on the subject, starting with this post.

 

[inside]

I personally think that there are going to be a whole lot of people in the next supersmash considering the boost of characters from Smash brothers to melee.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

You are forgetting that with the removal of those 5 characters, THEY ARE ALREADY ADDING 8 NEWCOMERS to acheive that 29 number.

Also, you'd be a fool to think Ridley will be a playable character, he will almsot surely be a boss. I'll give you King Dedede, Geno, Captain Olimar, and Lucas, but not Ridley Krystal and WW Link. You think they're gonna take out Y. Link just to stick in WW? I don't think so.



You do not know there will be two more third party characters. You are being way too generous with your thoughts. There will NOT be another F-Zero character, and there will NOT be another TP character.

The 18 franchise thing is irrelevant. I dunno where you guys come up with it'll be his last game ever, this is pure gossip. You most certainly didn't keep the list to a minimum.


Overall, you are being foolishly optimistic. I'll tell you what will REALLY happen.

The SIX characters we'll most likely lose are GAW, Y. Link, D. Mario, Pichu, Roy, and IC's.

Plus the 8 newcomers revealed= 28

We'll get Lucas, Olimar, Geno, and Nook.

We'll also get Issac or Felix, and probably Sonic and Megaman.

I'll even throw in a Sigurd. (sp?)

That's 36 characters without GAW and 37 with him. (If you're still going buy the icon theory.)

I'm still saying anywhere between 32-42 chars.

EDIT: I forgot a new pokemon. thats 37 or 38. That's up to 18 newcomers. Be happy.

Just to point out:

I've never played a Metroid game, I couldn't care less about Ridley.
I don't even know who Geno is.

And ALL of those characters I picked were in the top ten in Sakurai's poll.

They are not my choices.

2 more third party characters, that would make:

Snake
*Sonic
*Megaman

Another F-Zero character would equall 2 from that franchise. Another TP character *coughMidna&WolfLinkcough*.


I'm not biased.

EDIT:

You do not know there will be two more third party characters. You are being way too generous with your thoughts.

We'll also get Issac or Felix, and probably Sonic and Megaman.

You completely contradicted yourself there..

You are forgetting that with the removal of those 5 characters, THEY ARE ALREADY ADDING 8 NEWCOMERS to acheive that 29 number.

I don't quite understand this bit.

(26-5)+8= 29
I got my calculations correct.

 

[Eternal phoenix Fire]

I think a decent number is 40, so everyone is happy. 50 will not happen.

I don;t care how about the number of characters. Chances are i'm only going to play with about 10 of them the majority of the time.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

I think a decent number is 40, so everyone is happy. 50 will not happen.

I don;t care how about the number of characters. Chances are i'm only going to play with about 10 of them the majority of the time.

I agree 42-45 is my guess.

But, heck, i'll probaly play as all of them, like I do in Melee.

 

[C00P]

How are people so sure how many 3rd party characters. I understand the game should stay nintendo based... but why only sonic and snake?.. has there been any info that actually says only 2 3rd party characters?

I don't see a majority... but I can see a number around 4-5. Perhaps we may see a Leon Kennedy, or some shonen jump characters. The game on DS (jump superstars) is obviously inspired from smash bros. With the games success in japan I can see the possibility of something like that occuring. Unlikely but possible.

I just don't see 2 being the limit for third party characters... unless snake and only snake is going to make the roster. I can see Kojima slipping Sakurai some yen for a metal gear pro-mo in smash... ya know cause he's not successful enough.

 

[Jackal478]

They should shoot for the stars with Brawl's roster, it is supposedally the last smash, and it should go out with a bang.

Mortal Kombat: Armegeddon was a good example of a slew of characters being in doesnt destory the game.

I'd have to say 40+ but i'm not posing any scientific theories or anything.

I'll be happy with the game no matter what. But I want more.

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA, MOOREEE

 

[Xanderous]

Nobody said it was the last Smash. Don't inflate rumors.

 

[Bassoonist]

Sakurai has stated this will be his last Smash, though. I know the same thing was said about Melee, but he could be not lying this time.

 

[.M.e.t.a.k.n.i.g.h.t.]

45-50 characters if this is THE FINAL SMASH

But if not....i say 36-40

Not too big of a difference but that is what i think

 

[Dokuro]

40-45 characters, i'm guessing.

 

[SmashChu]

How are people so sure how many 3rd party characters. I understand the game should stay nintendo based... but why only sonic and snake?.. has there been any info that actually says only 2 3rd party characters?

I don't see a majority... but I can see a number around 4-5. Perhaps we may see a Leon Kennedy, or some shonen jump characters. The game on DS (jump superstars) is obviously inspired from smash bros. With the games success in japan I can see the possibility of something like that occuring. Unlikely but possible.

I just don't see 2 being the limit for third party characters... unless snake and only snake is going to make the roster. I can see Kojima slipping Sakurai some yen for a metal gear pro-mo in smash... ya know cause he's not successful enough.

Sakurai said no more then 1-2 more thiord party characters on the original site.

Also, I doubt 5, let alone 3 total. There is only one character qwho has shown popularity equivilant to the top requested Nintendo characters. I think you know who I'm talking about. From the Japanese poll, there doesn't seem to be interest in 3rd parties.

 

[King_cobra3600]

Plus, some Melee characters aren't returning anyway, so there could actually be more newcomers than ever

But since this a redundant topic:

as we know of, C.Falcon, Ness, Ice Climbers, and others from Melee haven't or will not comfirmed or returning. as we do know, some of the "clones" might be remade so they dont have exact moves of others.

as for character totals and 3rd party, hopefully a good 45-50.
as for 3rd party, 3 at the most,Snake being one of them.

 

[astrosfan11dcs]

i have heard from lots of people i know that because of the masssive amount of data a wii game disk can hold we could easily expect 45 or more characters and just because theres alot of charthers doesnt mean the designers will work on detail for each character less. they have been working on this game for 4 years so i dont think were going to be disapointed with the amount of playable characters or how cool each will be.

this game will be legendary best wii game yet.

 

[Xanderous]

Sakurai has stated this will be his last Smash, though. I know the same thing was said about Melee, but he could be not lying this time.

Ever heard of MGS?

 

[SilverFang]

I think around 40-45 characters.

 

[raphtmarqui]

Realistically? 35.

 

[shadenexus18]

I'd say the magic number of total playable characters is going to be around 42.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

as we know of, C.Falcon, Ness, Ice Climbers, and others from Melee haven't or will not comfirmed or returning. as we do know, some of the "clones" might be remade so they dont have exact moves of others.

as for character totals and 3rd party, hopefully a good 45-50.
as for 3rd party, 3 at the most,Snake being one of them.

WRONG!!

We do not know anything!

And C.Falcons symbol is already in Brawl..

 

[.M.e.t.a.k.n.i.g.h.t.]

45-50....prolly more

 

[smashdragon79]

i know for a fact that there is going to be over 30 characters, one of them might even be our very own sora wielding the solid silver keyblade.

 

[interfear1]

I'm not sure if this was already a Topic I looked through but not all of it cuase there was just a lot of pages. But does anyone know the Amount of Characters destined to be in SUper Smash bros. Brawl?

Sakurai better put at least 40 characters in the game and bring all the others from Melee.

 

[Mr. Ocax]

I'm hoping for 40-50.

 

[JPW]

I'm going for 40. Anymore and it's just wishful thinking. Besides we've got so much coming. Assist trophies, Items, Pokeballs, Stages, Online mode, Music selection, Adventure mode.

I'm really curious as to how they fit it all in.

The content is huge.