How many Charcters is there gonna be in Brawl?

[Bowser's Greatness]

I'm not sure if this was already a Topic I looked through but not all of it cuase there was just a lot of pages. But does anyone know the Amount of Characters destined to be in SUper Smash bros. Brawl?

 

[Kyu Puff]

Between 30-something and 50. No more than 50. Most likely 35 or 45.

There will also be 2 third-party characters. Hopefully Sonic and Megaman. :/

 

[Wreked]

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=65298&highlight=poll+week

This can help you out.

 

[Jakatsu]

Over Nine Thousand...

But seriously, no one knows, but expect around what Kyu said.

 

[C00P]

Better be 50!

Honestly i'm gonna be dissapointed if there are any fewer than 50 characters. By this point in the series the creators should have a pinpoint perspective on the games direction and should be able to just know who will fit and who won't. The media they use (DVD) opposed to nintendo's mini disc from GC can hold pretty much double the memory so I am hoping to see a solid jump in numbers. The beauty of this game is the diversity of characters vs. the (almost) perfect balance between them. The best example of a game of all star characters IMO is Marvel Vs. Capcom 2. I think it was 62 playable characters... I understand the game was much less graphically equivalent but that was also years ago.

A number over 45 is acceptible but for those who don't use items in a match, all these extras (assist trophies, new items) that are being added outside of charcters should be secondary...anyone who really plays this game seriously dosen't need items... they are merely a novelty.

MORE CHARACTERS! MORE!!!

And finally how does anyone know how many 3rd party characters there will be. If anything that will be kept more secretive than anything else in this game. That would be Sakurai's metaphorical ace up his sleeve.

 

[Kirby knight]

Honestly anything from 34-40 seems like a reasonable number of characters. BUT 50!!! that's kinda absurd imo.

 

[SonicSpeed]

My guess is around 32-35.

 

[Doc Chronic]

50 chars would be awesome, but comes as a double edged sword, because balancing all those characters is a fickle mistress. having 50 could lead to many broken characters and people b1tchin

 

[IllidR]

My guess is around 32-35.

Eww.. that's a low number. 32 would only be adding 7 more characters if no one is removed... so that means there would be no more newcomers considering we know 8. I'm hoping for at least 40.

 

[pirkid]

35-50.

Glad we got that down...

 

[Keku]

Here's my thread and thoughts about it: http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=114141

 

[C00P]

So long as its balanced... the more the merrier no? The more fighting styles the better for people to find their own main figthter. If that many characters were to cause an uneven playing field I agree, but as long as this game ends up online I think its important to offer big numbers. I could see this being the last proper smash considering Sakurai was almost not going to make Brawl. So I say give the deepest possible fighting game that will never have to be upgraded and can be played forever. My only complaint with melee is that there arn't enough characters. After you have played for thousands of hours it becomes slightly stale... although I don't get that bored yet.

I work at a videogame store nearby and play against customers. The biggest complaint that I hear is the game needs more. Some customers were hardcore but found the game got stale so they play less now. I am getting there and brawl is rushing that feeling too because I see how much more.

Finally I read a quote by Hideo Kojima saying something along the lines of, Brawl is complete enough to sell millions of copies already... and this was around E3 time. If the game is that complete what is left other than balancing character... hopefully over 50 of them

I just wan't an *** load of even fighters so I can play Brawl and only Brawl so I don't need to buy anymore games ever. k?

 

[Pyroloserkid]

I'm thinking, for every character in Brawl, you should get one infraction point for lying about searching.

 

[SloT]

The thing about making a game is that the more characters there are, the harder the work is to balance everything out... Dont expect more then 35 because laying more then that is just unreasonable

 

[GreenKirby]

Plus, some Melee characters aren't returning anyway, so there could actually be more newcomers than ever

But since this a redundant topic:

 

[tirkaro]

there better be over 40 characters. if there aren't then thats just bull. its not like it's hard to make a small model with 22 moves. and since this will most likely be sakurai's last smash (aka, the last good smash) he better go out with a bang. only putting in 8 new characters is just lazy. c'mon! >:O

 

[SmashChu]

@COOP: The thing you forget is he got 6 characters by making the clones. Essentually, characters who could be done faster. In Brawl, he will probobly move waya from that. Those characters were for time sake. And, as such, most will get removed while others stay.

50 is asking for way too much. Your going to get 40 at the most. But, 30-40 is the best bet. Characters are nhot the entirerty of the game. You call items a novelty, but reality check, they are not. They are just as much a part of the game as the courses and charactyers. More items=more fun. Not everyone who plays this game just wants more characters. There are thiose out there who want items, and even some players who want them in tournamants.

There is also no way to effectivly balance 50 characters. It's a pipe dream. By adding 35 characters, he canb effectivly balance them. He'll also have time to do so. We'd all like 50 characters, but, honestly, after 40 he's pulling out the bottem of the barrle characters.

 

[Novaya_Russia]

Not at all. I can zip off 40 characters off the top of my head, and that's not counting third parties.

You'd need to be up around 70, maybe 80 characters before all the worthy characters would be taken and you'd be scraping bottom. The only issue here is balance, but it's not impossible to balance 50. It is a a lot to ask, though, and realistically, somewhere between 40 and 45 is what we can hope for.

 

[Knifey McStab]

only 4....well, used in tourneys

 

[Skivich]

Im hoping for upwars of 50+ and it will be sweet to have more charcters with the assist trophy addition. more characters+me=mayhem

 

[Cygnus V Arcana]

only 4....well, used in tourneys

KNIFEY MCSTAB FTW! haha

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Im hoping for upwars of 50+ and it will be sweet to have more charcters with the assist trophy addition. more characters+me=mayhem

34 in theory but that is too less....

****it another person is using my avatar...

 

[Pluvia's other account]

32-35????!

In his last Smash game??

That's he's been working on for over 2 years???

That's like 9 new characters!!

I highly doubt there will only be that much.

42-45 is what I think, anything less is just lazy and pointless.

 

[Mr.GAW]

Anybody who expects more than 40 will be dissapointed.

 

[Jopaan]

I think it is safe to assume that there will probably be somewhere between 34 and 42 characters. 45 at the most.

 

[skullkidd]

I say 38-42.
No one knows yet.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Anybody who expects more than 40 will be dissapointed.

I disagree. We know of 19 characters just now. Say they add everyone from Melee except for 5 of the clones (Ganon is included, as he's bound to return with a different moveset).

That makes:

29 characters. Now add the ones that we're pretty sure will be playable:

King Dedede
Geno
Ridley
Captain Olimar
Krystal
WW Link
Lucas
(These were some of the top voted for characters on Sakurai's poll)

That makes:

36 characters. Now add the currently unknown AC character and two third party characters:

That makes, 39 characters. Now add another one from the Pokemon, FE, F-Zero and TP franchise, and that makes 43 characters.

43 Characters

And that was me keeping the list down to a minimum. There are MANY more that I missed out, AND I didn't even note the fact that there is going to be atleast 18 different franchises.. Or the fact that this is possibly his last game ever.

Do you really think there are only going to be 9 new characters??

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

32-35????!

In his last Smash game??

That's he's been working on for over 2 years???

That's like 9 new characters!!

I highly doubt there will only be that much.

42-45 is what I think, anything less is just lazy and pointless.

15 new...

not all are returning...

 

[Hong]

A lot of people who are mentioning 50+ forget that they want completely original and different characters. A lot of fighting games like Marvel vs X/Street Fighter/Capcom/whatever have characters who switch moves around and have different graphics for attacks, but it's all the same pool being mixed for 60 characters. Pretty much every character has a multihitting special that's just a huge blast with varying sizes. Keep in mind, it's not just the time constraints, but Sakurai could barely get 26 characters. More time would have probably been more clones and a few more original characters. This time, they want more emphasis on balance and presumably no clones. (Since Sakurai is clearly not fond of them in any way.)

Unless the development team has some amazing brain storm which they think up 50 completely original and different characters, you're expecting way too much. I say 40 at the most. My prediction is 35.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

..Unless the development team has some amazing brain storm which they think up 50 completely original and different characters...

Look at his face. It's going to haunt all those people who doubted that Sakurai could make completely original characters.


I stick with my 42-45.

 

[Hong]

Look at his face. It's going to haunt all those people who doubted that Sakurai could make completely original characters.


I stick with my 42-45.

I left that margin of error that is 5 for completely original characters. I'm probably the only one who wasn't surprised by Pokémon Trainer. D:

 

[Neanderthal]

Honestly i'm gonna be dissapointed if there are any fewer than 50 characters. By this point in the series the creators should have a pinpoint perspective on the games direction and should be able to just know who will fit and who won't. The media they use (DVD) opposed to nintendo's mini disc from GC can hold pretty much double the memory so I am hoping to see a solid jump in numbers. The beauty of this game is the diversity of characters vs. the (almost) perfect balance between them. The best example of a game of all star characters IMO is Marvel Vs. Capcom 2. I think it was 62 playable characters... I understand the game was much less graphically equivalent but that was also years ago.

A number over 45 is acceptible but for those who don't use items in a match, all these extras (assist trophies, new items) that are being added outside of charcters should be secondary...anyone who really plays this game seriously dosen't need items... they are merely a novelty.

MORE CHARACTERS! MORE!!!

And finally how does anyone know how many 3rd party characters there will be. If anything that will be kept more secretive than anything else in this game. That would be Sakurai's metaphorical ace up his sleeve.

Prepare to be disapointed...

Id say 35-40

 

[blayde_axel]

Sakurai himself said he'd like around 45-50... with more girls and less clones/japanese-focused characters.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

I'm gonna be honest, I would be disappointed if Sakurai didn't include 40+ characters including everyone from the past games (except for Dr. Mario, Roy, and Pichu; they can be booted, any good attribute from them can be easily implimented into their clones, and Dr. Mario pretty much needs to be an alt. for Mario). It would be completely unnecessary to take out any character from a fighting game (especially rumored booted characters like Mr. Game & Watch and the Ice Climbers, two completely original characters in Melee), and honestly I'd be dissapointed if most of them didn't return.

But yeah, I'm in the 40+ range, as I stated.

 

[blayde_axel]

Ah, Dr. Mario... I liked the character, but I was disappointed that it was... not only a clone... but THE most perfect clone in the entire game!

So, yeah, Pichu, Dr. Mario, Young Link, and Roy can be kicked. And replaced with (In order) Lucario, Paper Mario, WW Link, and Ike, obviously.

I'm thinking, of course, Marth is returning. He was in the first game!

But, anyway... sticking with the 45-50.

 

[shipoffools]

well if i remember correctly they only used like 3/4 of the gamecube disc to make melee. with the new disc being twice the size, you can almost fit 3 melees on one brawl disc. i see no plausable reason why there shouldnt be 50+ characters. nintendo is pretty much the founder of video games, and over the last few decades it really shouldnt be hard at all to findy worthy characters in countless of games. the game has been pushed back too far and besides, the main attraction in ssb is you can be characters that would never see eachother in anyother way if it wasnt for this video game. a gun is a gun in any game, and items can never bee as big of a draw as the characters. dont you think he would try to capitolize on that draw as much as possible? i do. hes going out with a bang- 50+ characters.

 

[Mr.GAW]

I disagree. We know of 19 characters just now. Say they add everyone from Melee except for 5 of the clones (Ganon is included, as he's bound to return with a different moveset).

That makes:

29 characters. Now add the ones that we're pretty sure will be playable:

King Dedede
Geno
Ridley
Captain Olimar
Krystal
WW Link
Lucas
(These were some of the top voted for characters on Sakurai's poll)

You are forgetting that with the removal of those 5 characters, THEY ARE ALREADY ADDING 8 NEWCOMERS to acheive that 29 number.

Also, you'd be a fool to think Ridley will be a playable character, he will almsot surely be a boss. I'll give you King Dedede, Geno, Captain Olimar, and Lucas, but not Ridley Krystal and WW Link. You think they're gonna take out Y. Link just to stick in WW? I don't think so.

That makes:

36 characters. Now add the currently unknown AC character and two third party characters:

That makes, 39 characters. Now add another one from the Pokemon, FE, F-Zero and TP franchise, and that makes 43 characters.

43 Characters

You do not know there will be two more third party characters. You are being way too generous with your thoughts. There will NOT be another F-Zero character, and there will NOT be another TP character.

[/QUOTE]And that was me keeping the list down to a minimum. There are MANY more that I missed out, AND I didn't even note the fact that there is going to be atleast 18 different franchises.. Or the fact that this is possibly his last game ever.

Do you really think there are only going to be 9 new characters??[/QUOTE]

The 18 franchise thing is irrelevant. I dunno where you guys come up with it'll be his last game ever, this is pure gossip. You most certainly didn't keep the list to a minimum.


Overall, you are being foolishly optimistic. I'll tell you what will REALLY happen.

The SIX characters we'll most likely lose are GAW, Y. Link, D. Mario, Pichu, Roy, and IC's.

Plus the 8 newcomers revealed= 28

We'll get Lucas, Olimar, Geno, and Nook.

We'll also get Issac or Felix, and probably Sonic and Megaman.

I'll even throw in a Sigurd. (sp?)

That's 36 characters without GAW and 37 with him. (If you're still going buy the icon theory.)

I'm still saying anywhere between 32-42 chars.

EDIT: I forgot a new pokemon. thats 37 or 38. That's up to 18 newcomers. Be happy.

 

[Guglio]

I could agree to 40-50.

But that's too many even now.

I just want balance. Give me 3 new characters, and make the game more balanced and its fine. If it's melee non balanced, I'm returning it.

 

[WeXzuZ]

In SSB64 there was 12 characters (8 starters 4 unlockables)
In Melee there is 25 characters (14 starters and 11 unlockables where 6 were clones)
If you are following the pattern it would be:

Around 38-50 (38 because 25+12=38 and 50 because 25 was almost twice 12 hence 50 being twice of 25)
That is in starters: 22-28
and unlockables: 16-22
Hopefully no clones or at least only 1-2

I know its all based on the former games, but I could see it coming.

 

[Takeshi245]

Wait until Sakurai gives us more information. Then you'll know.