How many characters do you think is too much

[firedragon_jing]

Sakurai slipped and said their will probably be a SSB4, so how many characters is too many.

I personally see 50 being the absolute limit, unless DLC packs are available come the next game.

 

[MajinNecro69]

50 is probably the most it could handle, and that's how many I think would be perfect (seeing as we got only around 12 this time around). My hopes will not be as high for Smash 4 roster wise.

 

[naevorc]

http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=145866

 

[Fanewgie]

It depends on how they handle it.

A solid chunk of 40 completely unique characters would be great. But, they could keep clones and nail 50 with ease. On the other hand, they could really give in and actually give us NEW CLONES (which they should have in Brawl, IMO), and hit 60 without a problem.

 

[shadowyoshi2345]

45-50

10chars

 

[super-7]

well if u count the the pokemon shiek and zamus we have 39 chars.. if there was an ssb4 then id say about 48

 

[firedragon_jing]

well if u count the the pokemon shiek and zamus we have 39 chars.. if there was an ssb4 then id say about 48

I don't count them being their own characters, just like Sheik wasn't considered her own character in Melee. There is only 35, 39 just came out of people wanting more, and trying to justify it.

 

[super-7]

I don't count them being their own characters, just like Sheik wasn't considered her own character in Melee. There is only 35, 39 just came out of people wanting more, and trying to justify it.

but they do have there own moveset and u can choose them at the start of a match..
how can u count them as one... when they are different?

 

[Neanderthal]

36

 

[Zek]

Sakurai said no such thing.

 

[Red&Silver]

but they do have there own moveset and u can choose them at the start of a match..
how can u count them as one... when they are different?

you dont count the pokemons because there 1 character because they depend on each other because of they get tired >_>
edit:even on the dojo they count as ONE character because there listed on pokemon trainers page

 

[Chaosblade77]

Oh right, the original question:

I think that it depends on how the characters are implemented. 35 was plenty for Brawl, it's just that the most popular characters were not chosen and it makes the 35 feel like less than it could have been.

The next game could have 40 character slots and probably have a mind boggling roster. With the option of sort-of-halfway-clones like Brawl had, I would say 45 is the top.

As long as the roster is not exceedingly ridiculous though, the sky is the limit for me. While more characters is better, I want quality over quantity. Not random characters from franchises only one in a hundred gamers have heard of or something and 14 characters from Mario and Zelda.

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but they do have there own moveset and u can choose them at the start of a match..
how can u count them as one... when they are different?

Moveset =/= character, in my opinion. My I'd say there are 37 fully playable characters, by the definition you can play an entire match effectively with them. Reason I don't count Pokemon Trainer as three is because in order to use him efficiently, you HAVE to switch out your Pokemon. You don't have to switch out Sheik/Zelda or Samus/Zamus.

Sakurai said no such thing.

He implied that it's definitely possible and that he would direct the game if the conditions were correct.

 

[Doc Chronic]

this is a pretty broad question. but i would say maybe 45 or so is pushing it

 

[DraginHikari]

I don't understand how you could claim the existance of something like that based on a very indirect statement like:

Well, the series has already had three iterations so I cannot say with one-hundred percent confidence that there won't be any additional Smash Bros. games ever. But, at the same time I'd really like to note that I feel like with Brawl there are already so many modes and so much to do that it's really hard to exhaust what you can do with this game. I'm really against the idea of merely creating a sequel that would add modes or increase the number of characters in the roster -- all the sort of things that just simply fatten up the game. I'd like to avoid just doing that if a sequel ever came out.

He didn't suggest that were would or wouldn't be another. That looks more like he doesn't know.

 

[Luke Groundwalker]

No amount is too much.

 

[Pink Reaper]

As it is, 35 is a bit much, but there are clones so people sort of balk at it. I would say if there were clones in the next game 40 should be the limit or else you'd start having ridiculously unbalanced characters(we dont want this to turn in to Mugen do we?)

 

[Fluke]

Any more, and then there's the problem of not enough spaces to fix all the ICONS of each chracter.

Multiple pages to flip through in Character selection screen? Course not.

 

[C.Olimar788]

Too much for me would be about 60. :/

I expected Bawl to have 50 characters so... XD

 

[Titan05]

Once Gombas become playable characters, we've gone too far.

 

[Norm]

Eh really i would say 50 but they could put as many as they want and isn't it a bit early to be talking about the new game when Brawl isn't even out in NA yet.

 

[Doc Chronic]

Once Gombas become playable characters, we've gone too far.

QFT


edit: hammer bros are ok though haha

 

[Roy-Kun]

Over 50 is my limit.

I expected for 45 characters... -.-

 

[JNS]

the ideal would be to have around 50 charachters. But tell me who the hell are they going to add?Exept for Ridley and Crystal all the extremely popular charachters are in. Then you got the popular third party chars like bomberman, megaman and geno and that at most gets us to around 40. I don't want a game fille with filler clones just so we have a lot of charachters.

In the end what's best is around 5-8 new charachters and have all the clones decloned.

 

[MajinNecro69]

the ideal would be to have around 50 charachters. But tell me who the hell are they going to add?Exept for Ridley and Crystal all the extremely popular charachters are in. Then you got the popular third party chars like bomberman, megaman and geno and that at most gets us to around 40. I don't want a game fille with filler clones just so we have a lot of charachters.

In the end what's best is around 5-8 new charachters and have all the clones decloned.

1. Ridley
2. Geno
3. Isaac
4. Krystal
5. [Unreleased game character that gets popular in between Brawl & SSB4; Olimar was that character in Brawl]
6. Takamaru
7. Sukapon
8. Sigurd, Micaiah, random other FE character
9. Bowser Jr.
10. New 3rd Party
11. Possible 3rd Party to replace Snake and/or Sonic, should they not return

Those are 11 of the most likely for Brawl in my estimation.

 

[PukeTShirt]

I'm not sure that I could honestly say a definite number of characters is too many, it really depends on how unique, balanced and relevant the characters are. 75 balanced, unique (no clones or only semi clones) and moderately important characters? I'm all for it. 75 characters where half of them are either complete clones or just unplayable because of how bad they are? No thanks

 

[Zevox]

No amount is too much until it starts disrupting game balance or they get so desperate for new ideas that they turn to generic creatures like Goombas, Hammer Bros, Metroids, etc.

Zevox

 

[Juicy]

45-50 min would be good. SSB4 wouldnt be coming out for probally the next console which i expect will be in about 4 years. looking at how balenced the characters are in this one its hard to believe that they couldnt make atleast 50 characters + alt costumes. atleast this time i think they'll be able to work more on origonal characters rather than a **** load of music. also they could fit all the characters in one screen its not too hard to make the icons a little bit smaller.

so i dont think there is a limit because they will have enough time to make every thing balenced

 

[kingjoekur]

sakurai said he doesnt wanna make a sequel just for more characters. so i say, get him off ssb4 then....

 

[Kazuma]

.............. OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!! it had to be said.

 

[limitbreak]

I say 45 is max. Even that might be too high.

 

[Black/Light]

I don't understand how you could claim the existance of something like that based on a very indirect statement like:



He didn't suggest that were would or wouldn't be another. That looks more like he doesn't know.

Yea. . .Im trying to see how he "let it slip".

He just said that seeing as the series has come to it's 3rd game that he can't 100% say that there WONT be a 4th one and that he doesn't want to just fatten the game up with more characters and modes. . .and that brawl makes it harder to pull in more things because of the great amount thats in it already.

If anything he seems unsure-or-leading-to-no on his end of things.

 

[pwnzorz]

50. 5x10 board.
50 would be perfect for me.

 

[ConeZone]

when did he say there will be a SSB4? but i hope like 45 without any clones..would be nice

 

[ROOOOY!]

50 is pushing it. If we're including ALL transormations, I'd say about 48.
Oh, and Landmaster will be it's own character, of course.

 

[Supersmashbro125]

no number is too much for me

 

[Mama]

Honestly no number would be too much. Well actually maybe like 100 characters would be pushing it. But people who say that 50 characters would be too much are just ungrateful *******es. The only issue in having a lot of characters is balancing which means that having a roster that large would take a bit longer to develop.

Also Nintendo will be the one to decide on the next Smash game. Not Sakurai. Remember the story behind Brawl? They didn't even tell Sakurai till after they announced it. And even if Sakurai refuses (which he seriously wouldn't because he'd be paid well for producing another cash cow) Nintendo has the team that helped produce this game as well as under studies.

 

[okor]

However many characters can be added before there is no balance is just right. More than that is too much.

 

[SomeRandomGuy]

There is no such thing as too much

 

[Mama]

However many characters can be added before there is no balance is just right. More than that is too much.

Thats a perfect way to put it.