How hard exactly was Cloud nerfed?

[Akzomp]

With the recent surprise 1.1.5 patch, Cloud was, of course, nerfed. With a weaker up-air, Finishing Touch, and more, how much exactly do you think this affected Cloud, how much (if at all) did he drop in tiers, and are these nerfs significant enough to truly impact him in competitive play?

Reply with your opinions/analyses!

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

The nerfs aren't that bad, actually. You might have to work harder to get the kill, but he's still crazy good.

Heck, with Sheik, ZSS, Meta Knight and some other top tiers getting some pretty big nerfs, he indirectly became much better than before.

 

[~Skelly~]

The nerfs were pretty minute. Cloud still has everything that makes him good like his disjoints, frame data, and kill power. We just have to work a bit more for KOs. FT was only nerfed for when it's used in the air (and it's still good regardless), FT on the ground was left unchanged.

There's no need for concern.

 

[Yσנιмιтѕυ]

Our boy was hit with a weak slap on the wrist at the most. #raisetheroof

 

[MaxRevenge]

The nerfs aren't that bad, actually. You might have to work harder to get the kill, but he's still crazy good.

Heck, with Sheik, ZSS, Meta Knight and some other top tiers getting some pretty big nerfs, he indirectly became much better than before.

Agreed. Even Dabuz thinks he's top 3 now (Bayo, Cloud, then Rosa). And Eventhubs (though I don't know if that is credible or not).

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Agreed. Even Dabuz thinks he's top 3 now (Bayo, Cloud, then Rosa). And Eventhubs (though I don't know if that is credible or not).

Eventhubs is NEVER credible.

However, I heard a lot of people saying that Cloud is now top 3...

 

[Octagon]

If you look at the patch notes, everything just got very slightly worse that its almost unnoticeable unless you carefully look at the patch notes. Examples of this are the fsmash, dsmash, and limit cross slash KBG. The only nerf that i noticed and are unfortunate are the limit charge time because it just takes longer to have the game changing Cloud mechanic that is Limit Break.