MarthZ
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its how good MY marth is not how good is marthhonestly marth is a pretty cool guy. at first, he's kind of shy, you know. but once he comes out of his shell, he's good people man
Uhh... pretty bad. I'll try to be constructive here. Focus on attacks that won't just work on a CPU. there's no reason a human player would continually slowly fall into your attacks like that. Marths grab is great so use that more. Dash dancing is actually useful so don't just use it to taunt between kills. It's pretty clear to me that you face CPUs more than human players by your playstyle, find a local tournament or something and play against some talented marth players.have any tips to how my marth can be better btw I'm on an emulator with lots of lag using a keyboard to play so I'm much better than what you saw
well if i ****ing just go back in fourth in front of like i don't know maybe m2k's marth then he could go into a comboUhh... pretty bad. I'll try to be constructive here. Focus on attacks that won't just work on a CPU. there's no reason a human player would continually slowly fall into your attacks like that. Marths grab is great so use that more. Dash dancing is actually useful so don't just use it to taunt between kills. It's pretty clear to me that you face CPUs more than human players by your playstyle, find a local tournament or something and play against some talented marth players.
i was on an emulator and I got lots of slow down, when i was editing i couldn't find the right speed up speed so i just sped it up to 1.5, i don't have any recording devices to record a game cube so you know emulator n stuff, and if i did have a capture card i wouldn't be able to use it because i only have a desktop, all I can say is i'll speed it up more next time.Also I can't practice with anyone in my area because i live in North West indiana and its always east and west coast battle but I might be able to netplay someone if possible for practiceYour marth isn't bad. but It's not that good either.
You do a lot of flailing, where you just throw out fsmashes, dairs, and other moves and expect them to hit.
I don't see you dashdancing enough, and using wavedashes.
get better at edgeguarding. Take the ledge, or get closer and dtilt, because standing back and fsmashing will never work for you in a high level match, when you get there.
Videowise it was pretty slow and I didn't really want to watch the whole thing lol
You seem to understand marth's moves at a basic level, and you attempted to combo so thats good I guess
Grab more please. Grabs are the best.
Good luck.
You're the one who asked for advice. Your marth can use a lot of improvement. Your strongest area is knowing when to use your Tilts, but even a half decent player would have hit you in between every single one of those attacks.well if i ****ing just go back in fourth in front of like i don't know maybe m2k's marth then he could go into a combo
This, all the way. You can't ask for help then act like you're better than others.Don't ask for advice if you're not going to take it.
the reason i use the up smash is because i cant get into a tilt position on a key board plus i have adrenaline or something and i always hold up anyway when i play smash 4 and i know you can down tilt but i never really get a chance but thanks for the help i really apreciate it oh and for the thing with the juggling if its Purin (i use the japanese name cause its more fun than jigglypuff) I might use a foward air into a down air or the ken combo basicallyA few more things. How do you do against non spacies? Not everyone plays them and you seem to just be relying on Marth's ability to juggle them out the wazoo. Spamming abilities like that against somebody like Puff or Sheik will get you killed. Another thing that looks wonky is the use of the Usmash. Marth's Usmash is just awful imo, it's almost always a better option to tilt because it hits a wider area, gets done quicker, and still does good damage while spacing them away from you. I think it can also lead into combos if done right? Idunno don't play Marth, Lastly, you can edge guard space animals with your down B for the lulz.
well first I'll need a new gamecube to actually practice on both those videos are out dated plus when i recorded both of those 4 fps I do a lot of stuff now like I got into the habbit of spiking when i get the chance and I know wall teching L canceling dash dancing foxtrotting and how to do the short hop forward air fast fall L cancel approachThere is a scene in Indiana. Join the Indianapolis Smash, Purdue Smash, IUB Smash pages.
Play against real people. Videos of you bodying CPU's don't tell us anything. Those techniques you are using won't work on humans.
I got a VHS recording set up and maybe later this year I'll switch to DVD-R but for now all I can say is I just have to get use to itWhen you get a gamecube, I'd rather see non-screen capture than low frame rate flailing that is innacurate of skill
i think i have very little mind games very minimal tunnel vision bad spacing against pew pew animals side b good at chain grabs but i do need to know the marth shiek match up which is probably the main reason i didn't rank that high in that tournamentI think its a useful exercise. Before anyone else says anything. What do you honestly think of your own playing?
As of your most recent gameplay that you posted.heres my most recent video of me playing that i have
yeah i was jc grabbing alotAs of your most recent gameplay that you posted.
CONS:
too much f-smash, it should be used sparingly if you will
don't just stand there and use neutral b, waiting for your opponent to walk into you
haha pretty much don't ever use counter, its easy to read and even easier to punish
save that jump man
jump cancel your grabs (if you are doing this i apologise, i didn't notice)
don't just stand there and wait, do something!
i'm not very good at at recognising but i do hope you are l-cancelling
listen to the people behind you that are not playing, they are constantly telling you what to do
don't jump onto stage from the ledge, either roll on or let go of ledge, jump then attack such as n-air
you have to di man
dash more, don't lollygag around the stage
not your fault but the person you are playing is terrible, like my friend who occasionally plays at my house for fun is a million times better
PROS:
you can wavedash well, not very well situation wise but you got the inputs down
good grab timing
nice dash dance, not amazing but meh
good use of side b to recover
Overall your performance is pretty poor (but so is your opponents'), I think this is mainly down to you playing against lvl 9 cpus, when practising alone play against either cpu lvl 1 so you can practise hits against them and they won't bug you too much if you are practising tech skill.
yeah im trying to form a very agile marth style thanks, the only thing i'm really good at is ledge guarding the only mind games i have are with ledgeguarding to add to that.This is not meant as a personal attack on you, it is merely a frank expression of your skill level from the examples provided.
You are right above the "I beat all my friends" skill level. That's the skill level very new players with no real tourney experience are at. You can probably easily beat most casual players as well as CPUs pretty reliably.
You do not yet have full control of your character, your movement is slow and visibly predetermined. You are likely very easy to predict and do not adapt to changes in play styles quickly, if at all.
You are not at the skill level that will allow you to implement technical strategy into your gameplay, because even basic actions are still require conscious effort. You very likely have a tendency to mash under pressure and are very much focused on what your character is doing instead of what your opponent is doing, out of necessity.
You are basically at the very beginning of your journey. You may actually become good if you have the motivation, luck, and ability to improve.
I wrote this up a few years ago, it's a short description of the training pattern I take new players through when I'm trying to get them from the level you're at now to a competitive level. I have trained quite a few players this way, some of whom are (maddeningly) even better than I am now. It's a simple framework, guiding you from the fundamentals all the way into advanced tech skill.
Good luck!