Man, the more I play melee the more I love melee and absolutely hate melee players lol. I feel like I'm hitting a roadblock in games, losing where I shouldn't necessarily. I know falco has it tough because if you don't 0 to death you get gimped by any number of ridiculous attacks that kill for free but still sometimes the struggle seems insanely real.
Peach: I feel like I'm getting the hang of peach players. Every peach player is just drooling to down smash, i honestly dont think they have any other thoughts in their head except for "I need to down smash asap, as many times as possible" A lot of peachs kit is just grimey dumb **** so I've been having BETTER luck in just keeping her away. She gets shut down decently with bair, so I just try to fight cancer with cancer and only aerial and bair lol. Trying to combo seems so easily, randomly countered. One combo which is guaranteed to have a down smash in there will completely destroy your stock, so I just try to avoid comboing all together (unless she has like 50-60%) and just play like a puff and widdle them down over time with bairs, I really try to be as obnoxious as possible, you know like how peach players are. Any other advise welcome.
Marth: This is my hardest match up by far. I'm starting to think Marth is actually the best player in the game. He is easy to play, low risk, high reward, brainless fsmashes, etc. The marths that give me the hardest trouble are the ones that love to live inside their shields. It is incredibly easy for marth to act out of shield and punish. I honestly don't even what to say about this match up. I try so hard and it feels like marth can just push buttons and win. How i do know this? Lol because alot of times ill switch to marth and my trash ass marth can keep up with them all of a sudden. He's just so fast, with the range and OP grabs. Yeah i'm convinced marth is the best character in the game.
Falcon: This match up is actually pretty fair it seems. I don't think i really need any advise on this one, just comes down to execution.
Fox: This is just a higher skill requirement marth. So many busted ass moves that combo easily. I think I'm ever so slowly learning to just out play some foxs, thats all you really can do. But i am getting messed up by nair. His nair is so good, it's so hard to deal with. Not to mention shine gimps, this is just another cancer match up. I don't know how to deal with nair. I'm noticing a lot of foxs like to jump to a plat form and then nair off the side and I'm having issues in dealing with that too. I could just be terrible, but I don't understand why that works so well against me.
Sheik: This match up is always so annoying. I don't really know what to do except for to not get too close and to keep moving.
Also in general if anyone has any grimey, cancerous tips that piss people off please share. I've noticed pretty much every single player just wants to play as cancerous as possible and to make other people rage, as if other peoples rage is how they determine how much fun they are having. It's honestly something else man lol, I can't think of any other video game where people take the game so seriously. Like their character is the personification of their ego and if they lose it's like a personal attack of character or something. I don't necessarily want to make people rage for fun, I just want to grime on grimey players.
TL;DR
So most importantly, how do I deal with foxs nair and nair from platform and how can I make marth shield less, falco isnt the best grabby character. You can't spam lazer too much or marth will just open up on you. You have to combo marth but it's so easy for marth to get away or shield grab you. Is this just like one of those situations where you have to perform razor sharp, godlike pressure like mango or else you can't do it?
MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION: With players that shield a lot in general I know you have to grab them but it is really hard to get anything off a grab with falco. You have to read the up throw, and i'd say I can usually get a bair most of the timely but the problem is if they are low % it just turns into them comboing me which makes it totally pointless. What are the optimized falco punishes when grabbing characters? Am I missing something? If they have good di is my up throw just a wash? I sometimes have decent success with back throw because I think the animation is just a little difficult for people to process mentally but then it puts me in a neutral situation where I have a slight advantage but I usually have to look for a read.
(Also side question on new slippi: does anyone ever feel like they are getting dropped/miss-timed inputs? Sometimes I just want to look at my hands and be like ... is this your doing? WTF)
Peach: I feel like I'm getting the hang of peach players. Every peach player is just drooling to down smash, i honestly dont think they have any other thoughts in their head except for "I need to down smash asap, as many times as possible" A lot of peachs kit is just grimey dumb **** so I've been having BETTER luck in just keeping her away. She gets shut down decently with bair, so I just try to fight cancer with cancer and only aerial and bair lol. Trying to combo seems so easily, randomly countered. One combo which is guaranteed to have a down smash in there will completely destroy your stock, so I just try to avoid comboing all together (unless she has like 50-60%) and just play like a puff and widdle them down over time with bairs, I really try to be as obnoxious as possible, you know like how peach players are. Any other advise welcome.
Marth: This is my hardest match up by far. I'm starting to think Marth is actually the best player in the game. He is easy to play, low risk, high reward, brainless fsmashes, etc. The marths that give me the hardest trouble are the ones that love to live inside their shields. It is incredibly easy for marth to act out of shield and punish. I honestly don't even what to say about this match up. I try so hard and it feels like marth can just push buttons and win. How i do know this? Lol because alot of times ill switch to marth and my trash ass marth can keep up with them all of a sudden. He's just so fast, with the range and OP grabs. Yeah i'm convinced marth is the best character in the game.
Falcon: This match up is actually pretty fair it seems. I don't think i really need any advise on this one, just comes down to execution.
Fox: This is just a higher skill requirement marth. So many busted ass moves that combo easily. I think I'm ever so slowly learning to just out play some foxs, thats all you really can do. But i am getting messed up by nair. His nair is so good, it's so hard to deal with. Not to mention shine gimps, this is just another cancer match up. I don't know how to deal with nair. I'm noticing a lot of foxs like to jump to a plat form and then nair off the side and I'm having issues in dealing with that too. I could just be terrible, but I don't understand why that works so well against me.
Sheik: This match up is always so annoying. I don't really know what to do except for to not get too close and to keep moving.
Also in general if anyone has any grimey, cancerous tips that piss people off please share. I've noticed pretty much every single player just wants to play as cancerous as possible and to make other people rage, as if other peoples rage is how they determine how much fun they are having. It's honestly something else man lol, I can't think of any other video game where people take the game so seriously. Like their character is the personification of their ego and if they lose it's like a personal attack of character or something. I don't necessarily want to make people rage for fun, I just want to grime on grimey players.
TL;DR
So most importantly, how do I deal with foxs nair and nair from platform and how can I make marth shield less, falco isnt the best grabby character. You can't spam lazer too much or marth will just open up on you. You have to combo marth but it's so easy for marth to get away or shield grab you. Is this just like one of those situations where you have to perform razor sharp, godlike pressure like mango or else you can't do it?
MOST IMPORTANT QUESTION: With players that shield a lot in general I know you have to grab them but it is really hard to get anything off a grab with falco. You have to read the up throw, and i'd say I can usually get a bair most of the timely but the problem is if they are low % it just turns into them comboing me which makes it totally pointless. What are the optimized falco punishes when grabbing characters? Am I missing something? If they have good di is my up throw just a wash? I sometimes have decent success with back throw because I think the animation is just a little difficult for people to process mentally but then it puts me in a neutral situation where I have a slight advantage but I usually have to look for a read.
(Also side question on new slippi: does anyone ever feel like they are getting dropped/miss-timed inputs? Sometimes I just want to look at my hands and be like ... is this your doing? WTF)