How do u edge guard snake ?

[acojan]

i hate snake --- that ******* with all his guns and bombs and that *****in box ?!?!?!

i can't knock him out before he blows me up with all his mines and ****... stupid cypher ....
Is there a way to stop his recovery with the crypher ? i tried spiking but i get hit but the cypher and its way to dangerous if i miss .......

 

[boss8]

snake is coming back to the edge.......

1.cape him to go backwards.....

2.while he is falling spray the water gun....

3.cape again to prevent from coming back.......the cape has hella knock back.....



at 0% snake can be easily utilted to 30% followed by an uair or bair it's your choice...followed by a grab....stay smart and watch were he lays his bombs...spray water at his sliding uSmash....then u can Dsmash or grab..

 

[Ronin_Sixshooter]

You could pull Snakes Cypher and let him fall to his death. If you cant do it fast enough hes open for an easy Mario tornado and if its timed right the last hit will catch him right after he releases the cypher, sending Snake up into the air and hopefully for the KO.

Mario is the most balanced character so its good to change your strategy depending on who you are fighting. Mario is pretty good at everything so find your opponent's weakness.

Try to force Snake to fight in the air. Use utilt or dtilt to start combos. Just watch out for grenades and falling c4.

Dont keep the fight on the ground because thats where Snake is better then you. Use fireballs to add pressure and keep Snake from getting you with combos. Dont go too close though;Snake has good range and speed. Blow up the grenades and mines with fireball also.

Not sure if this last bit will work because I just thought of it. Maybe Mario's Cape can send Snake's cypher in the other direction causing Snake to move away from the stage?

 

[acojan]

yeah i tried using the cape to reverse the cypher direction but cypher moves at a steep vertical angle so reversing the movement didn't make much of a difference since he just DI-ed back onto the stage

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thx for comments guys ! i will definetly take these into consideration. I hope i can get better with mario soon ! Im luvin him so far but i can't seem to get past some hurdles .... i will upload some vids soon.

 

[Ronin_Sixshooter]

I guess a timed Mario Tornado would be good then. Since the cypher brings Snake up pretty high. Might be an easy KO if the last hit connects. Either way it would hit multiple times for damage and you get to keep your second jump and up special.

 

[iMichael]

Foward air....just time it right.

 

[???????]

Use lots of Bairs and reverse Uairs. Also, master the Cape Glide so you can cape him even from far away (You have to cape snake multiple times because he gets his Up B back when you cape him for some reason).

*My friend plays a good snake but I always beat him...he commits suicide with his C4s when he realizes he's about to lose...it sounds lame but it's actually very funny*

 

[acojan]

cape glide ? is there a thread here about mario ATs ? i cannot seem to find any using the search thing --- but its probably my internet fuc*in up on me again ....

About the dair ... is it usefull to use it a lot like marios bair ? it looks good for racking up damage which i have having difficulty doing against wario -----

 

[???????]

The Cape Glide is simply the slingshot effect you get when run and cape off a ledge; other characters can do this but Mario gets by far the most distance (Mario gets at least 2x more distance than all other characters and doesn't lose vertical momentum near the end).

Here's a thread: http://smashboards.com/archive/index.php/t-153189.html

Here are some videos (Not mine):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCkv2A4Oe9s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tA5Mb15xtM

 

[snadmonkey]

If snake is close to the edge simply grab him as he goes by. If you grab cypher he falls to death, if u actually grab him just hold onto him and don't throw, eventually he'll break out and fall to his death. Other wise look for fairs or bairs, you can use cape/fludd to ruin his day if he's try to drop down from above to near edge of stage.

 

[drewlynoted]

yeah cape doesnt work, cuz he'll just aerial cancel into another cypher

i'll try to see if i can show a video proving that it wont work, at least on a good snake

aerials (except dair, you need time to fair, bair and uair is good at higher percentages)
and grabbing are you best bet. cape only works on noobs

and if you could, fludding is good only AFTER he does his cypher

 

[PukeTShirt]

Lol, play as ganondorf and dair him. 60% of the time, it works every time

 

[acojan]

you can't be ganondorf if your allready mario .. and gannondorf is ickkyy !

 

[iMichael]

Cape doesn't work.....foward-air or back-air is really all you can do....

 

[cHooKay]

dude, double fair the sh** out of him!!!

-Inspired by one of gimpyfish's early smash vids...

 

[Not-Beef]

It works 60% of the time every time? Either you're being redundant or you're being trippy.

I found it hard to hog Snake earlier on, too. I can't tell you anything that hasn't been said though.