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How do I properly use marths B move to break shields?

Fyist

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Title says it all, any suggestions are welcome.

I just want to learn good attack sequences and ways to mind game my opponent into their shield to set up marths B move.
 

Daedatheus

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This move takes a while to start up so setting it up is not really guaranteed. You can use it on recovering opponents, you can use it while recovering. Other than those situations, the actual mindgames are up to you. If your opponent's offensive maneuvers become predictable, bait/wait for such an attack, be sure they will commit to it, and in those cases you can even hit them with a well-charged shieldbreaker thrust. This depends on how well you read your opponent, it's no guarantee.

Another situation is if your opponent likes to roll behind you when up close to avoid attacks, you can use B to turn yourself around, charge a bit, and let out shieldbreaker when they stand back up after dodge-rolling behind you. Dancing Blade is also extremely useful for this situation, and comes out faster.

If you DO break your opponents shield, give them a fully charged, tipped shieldbreaker while they are stunned for the KO. It has the best knockback of Marth's moves (someone correct me if I'm wrong? Fsmash charged & tipped would work very well also).

Obviously if you face an opponent who relies heavily on shielding as defense, bait them out with some kind of attack you've already used a few times that they've shielded before. Then do a similar offensive pattern but back off a bit and shieldbreaker when the shield goes up.

There's no specific, textbook way to mindgame anyone. Try taking risks with shieldbreaker (IN FRIENDLIES/PRACTICE) to see where you can make it hit, often you pull it off when your opponent least expects it. Because of this I'd say use it sparingly - it has great range and can catch your opponent offguard if they haven't seen you using it in the match yet.
 

Fyist

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Sorry but maybe I start a new thread just to spark more interest in the topic and get different opinions then whats written already?
 

feardragon64

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Sorry but maybe I start a new thread just to spark more interest in the topic and get different opinions then whats written already?
Usually a bump with your opinion is all it really takes. If people have more to say, they'll say it. If they don't, then they won't and you'll have to live with what's already written.

P.S. grats on 1000 post count pierce =b
 

Hylian

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I hear pressing B works pretty well.
 

Rapid_Assassin

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Watch when your opponent likes to shield, and then try it. There's no magical answer as it depends on who you're fighting (player, not character).
 

legion598

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wow people if he wants to post he can post also if im gonna shield break its always uncharged and done after shield pressure try mixing it in with marths down tilt and dancing blade down variation or single dancing blades as these are his shield pressure moves
 

MarTh-

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I think neutral B has the most range out of your aerials, try to use it in approaches where the opponent expects to shield grab your fair. You won't actually be breaking the shield though against a good opponent, only injuring the shield, try to tipper it & you won't get punished usually
 
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