How can I tech chase consistently?

[GHOST4700]

The main problem for me is I get beat by spotdodge a LOT and usually I punish with d-smash but I can't really do that against peach because she'll get like 60% on me with her d-smash, advice?

 

[EddyBearr]

If you're losing to spot-dodge, you're probably not reacting fast enough. Only thing I can say is to practice more.

 

[zedy]

If you are losing to a peach's down smash when trying to tech chase try and use a bit mind games when tech chasing, chase after the peach wavedash back and try and bait out the down smash and get a free punish.

 

[GHOST4700]

like wavedashing in place before tech chasing

 

[zedy]

like wavedashing in place before tech chasing

running after the peach as if you are going for a grab and wavedashing back instead, a lot of Peachs will try and cc down smash if you tech chase. In other words once the peach sees that you are chasing they will try to down smash by wavedashing back you can bait out the down smash and you get a free punish after the down smash

 

[dude it's raining]

If you are losing to spotdodge from a certain player, make note of that player being a spotdodge-heavy player, and bait it out of him.

 

[fami]

Can someone link the guide to techchasing via camera movement?
Also, how do u deal with Falco shine / spotdodge? That ****s me hard :-(

 

[dude it's raining]

Can someone link the guide to techchasing via camera movement?
Also, how do u deal with Falco shine / spotdodge? That ****s me hard :-(

http://smashboards.com/threads/ministry-guide-to-tech-chasing-spacies.302446/
is easy to find in the sheik boards, but I don't know if that's what you wanted.

When somebody starts shining/spotdodging on me, I start mixing up stuff by giving him time to do it and then boost grabbing him out of it. It's supa hard, but this is a hard game.

 

[fami]

I saw that post and wondered if there's anything specific for camera tech chasing.
So you don't immediately regrab on standing tech? I currently do it as you say but I'd love a guaranteed regrab if that's possible but I guess I'm just too slow

 

[dude it's raining]

Not always. I just try to pick up on their habits. I try to condition them into doing things that I can punish.

 

[TRb]

Things to note: Usually scrubbier players will DI the same way they will tech. So if they land on the right side of your body then bias yourself towards a right roll.
And it may be because I have been trained on street fighter but try to hear an L press. Its tough in large tournaments or whatever but hearing a spring means I am not dealing with a missed tech.

 

[dude it's raining]

Things to note: Usually scrubbier players will DI the same way they will tech. So if they land on the right side of your body then bias yourself towards a right roll.
And it may be because I have been trained on street fighter but try to hear an L press. Its tough in large tournaments or whatever but hearing a spring means I am not dealing with a missed tech.

And if you hear 2 clicks, they messed it up.
You could also do the hbox and fake a cough but actually watch their DI.

 

[TRb]

And if you hear 2 clicks, they messed it up.
You could also do the hbox and fake a cough but actually watch their DI.

Is it bm to glance? I can imagine it being so but like its also kinda helpful

 

[dude it's raining]

Is it bm to glance? I can imagine it being so but like its also kinda helpful

While it probly is BM, it's even more Bad*** if you can pull it off. Whenever Hbox does it, it's just too sneaky.

 

[Scroll]

For increasing your success rate of d-throw tech chases, the best thing is to learn how to do it on reaction and sticking to that method throughout your career.
Step one of that method is to learn how a given character's animations look so you can recognize them instantly.
Grind 20XX techchasing as well as with a sparing partner.
Real resuslts will show over longer periods of time

Btw. if you get tricked by spot dodging you are by definition not doing a tech chase or even an attempt at one

 

[dude it's raining]

Yeah, considering how often you are going to be doing it, you should do it by reaction. Hbox's Dthrow -> Rest is a nice lil mixup tho.

 

[Jmook11]

If you are losing to a peach's down smash when trying to tech chase try and use a bit mind games when tech chasing, chase after the peach wavedash back and try and bait out the down smash and get a free punish.

Like what he said. Outsmart the player: SH Fair after a quick WD back..mix up your movements and wavelands and use baits to make HIM come to YOU

 

[TRb]

While it probly is BM, it's even more Bad*** if you can pull it off. Whenever Hbox does it, it's just too sneaky.

Any videos of it happening?

 

[dude it's raining]

Any videos of it happening?

I see if I can find 'em, then I'll edit this post w/ links

EDIT: http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/281us4/hungrybox_keep_your_eyes_to_yourself/

check the comments on this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WIl_CXLlm4

again, check the comments: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B3EopJRX-s

 

[TRb]

Hot damn. Thats so such a hbox thing. And sweet