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Blade689

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Fun Game #1:
THE HULK

1 (Green Team) vs. 3 (Blue & Red Team)

Settings:
Lives/Time = 3 stock
Stage: Hyrule
Team Attack: -On
Handy Cap: -On
Items: -All On, -Very Low

Green Team (1st Player) is the Hulk.
- Must be D.K., this is for obvious visual reasons, and for balancing reasons....... I find his hit box to help the Justice League (JL) combo even though team attack is on.
- Handy Cap Starts at 7 every time there is a new Hulk.
- Handy Cap Goes down by 1 if they win with 2 or more lives
- Handy Cap Goes Up by 1 if the JL+Batman has 4 or more lives

Red Team (2-3 players) is the Justice League.
- All characters are allowed
- 1 Handy Cap
- If a person in the JL gets +3 Kills and the JL wins, they become Batman.
- If the Hulk looses at 9 handy cap, the JL can appoint a new Hulk by free for all match, with most kills/or fist place (what ever you prefer) = the new Hulk.

Blue Team (1 player) is Batman.
- this is a person who is still part of the Justice League, but sees no benefit to being one of them.
-this position is earned in the game, but the core of the battle is still a 1v3.... batman still maintains a tentative position in the JL for the goal of the game. No in fighting KK, the HULK is TOO Powerful. lolz
- 1 Handy Cap
- If the Justice League wins with the Batman still alive at the end, the Batman becomes the Hulk, and the Hulk player is now a JL member.
- If the Batman survives past the JL members even in a loss, he continues to be batman.
- If someone else from the JL qualifies as the Batman, he takes the Batman Position.


To game ends in 4 ways:
1) The Hulk Looses his Rage: The player as the Hulk looses his handy cap from previous rules effects down to 5. Hulk Wins without having to kill the JL any more. This is the least likely victory, but its to stop the Justice League to run into tornado (retreat to their satellite base) and still have a chance for next game.

1) Hulk Smash: The Hulk Gets all 8+ Kills with a Handy Cap less then 8. (I give it to the Hulk at 8 and not 9, because the tornado claims many lives at 1 handy cap so a perfect sweep is very difficult, almost impossible)

2) Double Batman'ed: The player as the Batman gets +3 kills (you shouldn't count team kills....) and wins again. Instead of being the Hulk, he just wins.

3) Sweet Justice: A JL player ends a game without losing a life. This is very difficult with a Batman present, so it takes the full JL to achieve this...... Not only do you have to not take each other's live, but the Hulk becomes stronger if you tried for it and failed.

Tips and Ideas about the Game before you play:

Tips for The Hulk:
- Up+B is your Friend everywhere. It gets through all but fox's & ness's projectiles, and kills at 10% easy.
- Down+B is an instant Kill if you hit them with it. And Up-kills cause them to be out of the match for a longer period of time.
- Use the invincible frames of the forward throw as a shield.
- By Standing in:
-The middle of the stage will take around 20% to kill them..... but stops projectile lock downs. Its a very powerful place for D.K. with the platforms, they will probably scatter to the sides.... once you separate them, chase down and kill them.
-The left side is terrible to stand in against projectiles, but easy 1 touch kills
-The right side gives you cover from Strait projectiles, but does not kill due to the pit, and the lack of combing needed...... and gives them a little hole to juggle you in. The top of the Hut is a great place to jump back to the center.


Tips for JL
- Get Projectiles on your side to hold back the power of the hulk.
- Fox, Mario, Kirby+team thief, Samus, Ness and Yoshi are great for this job.
- Spikes will kill the Hulk if he is not careful. So have a Kirby or Ness on your side is a good thing.
- D.K. on your team is someone that can take about 20% more damage then the rest, and a Ness player that is healed can survive for very long times if the D.K. player chooses to camp.
- Items do huge shifts of power in the game, so don't allow the Hulk to get his hands on any special radiation (Heart, Tomato, Star). You can spread out when you hear an item drop, use your numbers to cover the field.


Tips For Batman:
This position was created to stop people from running at D.K. and using the pool of lives to make one person have 5-6 chances. If that person is really that pivotal to the victory, he shouldn't have died so much, so cut him off from the bank of lives and see how he still fares. If the Batman+JL can still triumph against the Hulk, then Batman gain The Hulk's position with a 7 handy Cap... which is in range to win..... but you also have a chance to win as batman if you can kill the hulk all 3 times, with just 3 lives at your disposal.

Batman is the Key for gaining the High Ground against a strong Hulk player if you have bad teammates...... but if you have good teammates, I suggest you go for the 3 man joint victory and maintain Sweet Justice in the end. Batman is actually counter intuitive to this goal, which makes the games have a solo element within this group.


The game is about forcing good team play to put you in a situation of winning, but needing a ridiculous circumstance to actually win. Until then, the game keeps shifting around between being teammates, and forcing 3v1 combat cinema for the players.


Tell me what you think about the game if you play it...... or post your own Games here. I like having crazy match-ups of all shapes and sizes. Handy-cap, strange items, plz post them all. I want to see the far edges of smash people have found over the years.
 

Surri-Sama

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This seems like an awful lot of work for something thats suppose to be fun xD

I remember there used to be a 2vs2 game where two people would fight normally, and the other two woul only use items (fans and star rods only i think)

It was interesting to see some of the spikes / saves you can do with fans and star rods xD
 

Blade689

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Yeah, its a lotta work to figure it out. But once you play the game, you'll see that it only matter between a match, and only one or 2 things will occur between a round.

Here's a check list:
- if Hulk wins.... did he have 2+ lives? Hulk Handy cap goes down
- If JL wins ....... did they have 4+ lives? Hulk Handy cap goes Up
- If JL member gets 3 Kills he's Batman now.
- if a Hulk looses when there is a batman, the Hulk is replaced by a batman.... game resets. Hulk at 7 Handy Cap vs JL
- If Hulk has <8 handy cap, he can win by killing everyone.
- If the Hulk Gets down to 5 handy cap he wins.
- If the Hulk Looses with 9 handy cap, new Hulk is elected.
- If someone doesn't loose a life in the JL, they win.
- If Batman is Batman, is Batman, he wins. lolz
 

L1ON

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I play pika grand prix on DL sometimes... basically you just do laps around the stage first one to x wins.

Also "basketball" - dk dittos on peach's castle, most dinks of your opponent on the bumper wins (if you cargo hold and jump into the bumper while holding them and throw at the right time you can get a nice multihit "dunk" lol)

Silly stuff but games within games are always fun... rawwrr
 

Blade689

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If you like DK matches, I like D.K. dittos on Dreamland. its like watching 2 wrestlers work each other off the ring. Its like an official wrestling match if the players start as P2 and P4 because then they have even footing too.
^fun note: the Down+B on Kirby Dream land can hit another DK player underneath you if your on one of the side platforms.
 

Battlecow

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Sounds like good times. I'll have to try it soon.

But mixing your marvel and DC? BAD BLADE. BAD. THIS AIN'T THE '80s.

****in' crossovers...
 

Blade689

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Yeah I know. trust me, I have too many comics. I just wanted the hulk................ and the Batman!!!! du dun dunt dunAAAA!!!!!!!! You can hate cross overs all you want.... but the Marvel Universe became broken upon creation. It specifically states that although these events could occur, they didn't and that all original canon holds true. I like the Batman. My roommate likes the Hulk. And I like Saying "Biff" or "Pow" whenever I spike or rock form. lolz lolz. its all for the lolz.
 

Battlecow

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Marvel totally WON Marvel vs. DC. They don't say it, but the final score is like 7-3 or something. Only Ya boi the hulk and Namor and Pietro lose, and only the Namor one was really a let down.

DC's a bunch of *******. They ain't had nothing since the '50s.
 

Olikus

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Funny have superheroes are so popular in US comics, and Disney comics are so popular anywhere else.
 

NixxxoN

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marvel comics are boring

anyone knows mortadelo y filemon? (Smart and clever in english) this comic is guaranteed lmao each episode
 

Blade689

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Yo, so I guess its all about comics and manga now........ so I will state my full view.

@ cheese ball: I love manga, I have all of the translated versions of Vagabond to date. I read the everything from 20th century boyz to Zetaman. I used to clean manga for Veritas before I went back to college. So yes, I like manga a lot.

@ Battle Cow: The Hulk can beat everyone.......... everyone ever. He's only lost to a god that has the power of 100000 suns.... and even then it was a tie because radiation makes him stronger. Marvel has too many OP people to be a stable universe and would have exploded earth a long time ago. Anyway, you can argue that DC sucks, but I'm guessing you like Vertigo Comics (they own that), or maybe that little old thing called "The Dark Knight"....... or sin city, or the affiliated works of frank millar, neil gaiman, or alan moore?...... anyways, I think they have done a lot for the comic book world sense the 50'ds.

Becides, Batman is really the only american superhero because his powers are formed on the basis of money and rage. lolz lolz lolz
 

Surri-Sama

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lol your thread has run off course!

To resume progression please return to talking about the original topic.

Take yur Comic wars to the social thread xD (Serious business much? :p)
 

Battlecow

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Social thread. Now. This forum has much to atone for.

Oh, and I played some of those hulk matches and they were really fun.
 

Blade689

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@ suri: sry.......... I just couldn't let DC's name get ruined........

xD. I'm glad you had fun with the matches BattleCow. I want to make up another game with Pikachu as Kiddo in the yellow biker leathers in KILL BILL, and slaying the Crazy 88. If you have any ideas on how to balance a Pikachu against 3 people, plz let me know. I'm thinking around a 5 v 1........ but I was thinking about making the team having different handy cap amounts instead....... that someone is Johny Mo, O-Ren Ishii, Sofie Fatale, or GOGO Yubari (I want her to be ness) but the game is so spesific I can't work outside the parameters I set.
^If anyone wants to help me, I would love to find more games with crazy rules.

Oh, I will also post a match with handy cap called King of the Hill soon, its really fun and ha a good handy cap mechanic at work.
 

Sempiternity

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I used to play with the auto handicap to even it up a bit when my Kirby-playing friend sucked really bad. Got to be less than fun because one grab would kill me at 2 or 3...
 

Battlecow

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The kill bill idea is pretty leet. I love how hilariously specific we're trying to be when making parallels between Tarantino films and Smash.

Lessee... Rotating 1v1's between kiddo and the three others, at the end of which Kiddo fights the "crazy 88", I.E. like 88 stocks worth of handicap-1 Link players? Just a brainstorm.

Make Reservoir Dogs next.
 
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