SpruceLee
Smash Rookie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4RvLOAzA8A
here is a video of me playing. Could anyone critique me on what i'm doing wrong?
here is a video of me playing. Could anyone critique me on what i'm doing wrong?
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Help with marth vs yoshi matchup
- Thread starter SpruceLee
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TheCrimsonBlur
Smash Master
This matchup is really hard. I don't know who wins it, but it takes a great deal of execution from both sides.
Nair is like, everything. It beats the parry, and destroys a lot of Yoshi's double jump approaches. Its also great for comboing; practice getting multiple quick nairs in a row.
For edgeguarding, let him go high and then juggle. Watch his double jump END, to the point that he doesn't have armor anymore, and then fish for a hit. Once you get him without a double jump, its really easy to knock him offstage and take the stock. If he goes really low and threatens either aerial or airdodge above the lip of the stage: do a nair that will beat his aerial, and then hit him if he did the airdodge instead.
Respect Yoshi. He can combo you to oblivion. Play with the appropriate amount of fear and the matchup becomes a lot easier.
Nair is like, everything. It beats the parry, and destroys a lot of Yoshi's double jump approaches. Its also great for comboing; practice getting multiple quick nairs in a row.
For edgeguarding, let him go high and then juggle. Watch his double jump END, to the point that he doesn't have armor anymore, and then fish for a hit. Once you get him without a double jump, its really easy to knock him offstage and take the stock. If he goes really low and threatens either aerial or airdodge above the lip of the stage: do a nair that will beat his aerial, and then hit him if he did the airdodge instead.
Respect Yoshi. He can combo you to oblivion. Play with the appropriate amount of fear and the matchup becomes a lot easier.
MasterShake
Smash Lord
My dude, you used fsmash too many billions of times. For every one that worked you got punished 10 times more. You need to work on weening yourself off that move and instead use safer options because against a good player, a laggy fsmash is one of the free-est, easiest punishes that everyone hopes for against a Marth. ESPECIALLY yoshi, because that character relies on his shield game more than any other character, so he's already prone to just blocking your moves. Retreating short hop fairs, d-tilts, a wavedash back while looking for a reaction, or even plain dash dancing to force something - just don't stand and fsmash because that move sukz gargantuan ballz.
As for Yoshi, a few things I gleaned from playing one - you can't uthrow combo because yoshi is stupid heavy for some reason. Try for tech chases with fthrow and dthrow instead. Also, all his double jump cancelling nonsense can be beaten by counter. As far as I know the only way for him to even do that is with an aerial, so obviously he's gonna try and hit you...just counter it! Until they wise up of course. Like crimson said, nair is godlike against yoshi, so practice up on doing quick, safe nairs, including running, retreating, yadda yadda. At low percent, if they have horrible DI/don't crouch cancel you can even combo like 5 nairs in a row. What a great move. Also, you don't have to go in on his shield so much. Remember that his shieldgrab sukz so you don't have to worry about it and can space aerials all day on his shield until they slip up and start getting antsy.
As for Yoshi, a few things I gleaned from playing one - you can't uthrow combo because yoshi is stupid heavy for some reason. Try for tech chases with fthrow and dthrow instead. Also, all his double jump cancelling nonsense can be beaten by counter. As far as I know the only way for him to even do that is with an aerial, so obviously he's gonna try and hit you...just counter it! Until they wise up of course. Like crimson said, nair is godlike against yoshi, so practice up on doing quick, safe nairs, including running, retreating, yadda yadda. At low percent, if they have horrible DI/don't crouch cancel you can even combo like 5 nairs in a row. What a great move. Also, you don't have to go in on his shield so much. Remember that his shieldgrab sukz so you don't have to worry about it and can space aerials all day on his shield until they slip up and start getting antsy.