help slasher king's falco

[SK919]

Videos for crit and advice

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/1/S7gxbwRWaHE

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/2/D80w-_V6hZs

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/3/GCaOQ08W9Zw

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/4/lI3qyPPI-4k

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/5/GqY8Uag42Yo

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/6/fuxAl1HQfHE

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/11/aCeyrCx0sxY

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/13/a8nHAL-4muI

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/14/Q3eFZeTLJWk

http://www.youtube.com/user/privysaur#p/u/15/Wr-ZgpmkqwU

help a brotha out. Trying to level up.

 

[FoxLisk]

your shield pressure is highly questionable. your movement's pretty good. you shouldnt generally get above marth voluntarily, though, which you sometimes do. it just gives him too many opportunities to **** you.

 

[SK919]

Thanks bro. On going above marth. Generally when I'm cornered or he has invulnerability after a KO I go over him. I don't really know what else I can do in those situations besides roll around but I see my self getting grabbed or punished even harder for that.

On shield pressure. Not really sure how to shield pressure marth. In videos I don't really see modern falcos trying or maybe they are doing it a different way. I just try to dair shine dair shine but marth has options. I'm trying to incorporate mango's aerial shine retreating aerial..

Suggestions?

 

[FoxLisk]

yeah when he's invuln you pretty much have to go above him a lot of the time. just try to be careful about getting back down? marth sucks

when you're cornered, sometimes you just have to steel yourself and not go above him. jumping up is exactly what he wants, so he can use his absurd priority on you. a lot of times you have more reasonable options than you think when marth is cornering you. you can roll behind him, shield, laser, throw moves. falco is really good, so even cornered he has some options. you just have to mix it up enough that he doesnt figure it out and stop you every time, but jumping above him too much doesn't work either.

on shield pressure: you should not ever try to dair shine dair shine. a good marth will grab you. mango's aerial shine retreating aerial is pretty safe. shinegrabs are pretty safe. a lot of the time, aerial shine wd back is safe, but if you do it too frequently they'll start WDing OoS and fsmashing/grabbing you, so don't spam it. landing behind him with your shield pressure works out fairly well sometimes. if a marth is good enough, though, and realizes you're doing that, he'll shield grab just to drop shield, and then CC grab you and then you're ****ed again.

there's no real safe shield pressure these days, people have found ways out of everything you can do. I personally like grabbing marth a lot to stop him from trying to shield too much, but mostly it's just about looking for openings rather than trying to attack his shield.

 

[BluePeachy100]

Okay, well, you so have really good movement, but it seems like, not only with Shines, but you throw out attacks just for the sake of throwing them out. You need to think more about what you're doing, as far as punishing goes. as well as sheild pressure. You did really bad things like Ftilting at a sheild. As far as that goes, you wanna stick to shines, and aerials, and only Utilt when behind and opponent, but still use that sparingly. Recoverywise, if you're able to, go for the Ub B sweetspot ledge thingy, it's pretty hard to punish, rather than going diagonal up.