Help my fox evolve into vulpine lol (critque plz)

[PK Webb]

kk so i finally have a few vids of my fox play and i need help. The people im playin wit r equally as good as i am.

(Rykard falco vs Me) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N399kO6V4GY

(Rykard falco vs Me) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7G1h9707Fo

(IcedTea Marth vs Me) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg6Yb7fI0-g

(IcedTea Marth vs Me) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHz703OPRqg

 

[nyc_tag$]

Alright I only had time to watch the falco ones because I have to get ready for pound since I'm leaving in a few hours LOL

Here are some things I noticed:

I used to love the falco matchup. Then Chops moved over here and I realized how difficult it is. Really good falco players (like G$ and Chops) will tend to crouch cancel your nairs up until like 80% so you're going to have to use dair shine or just shine a lot more when you approach.

Your combos/tech chases/follow ups are good. On FD, you should be chain grabbing a lot more because that's what it comes down to at high level play.

Also, waveshining in place against his shield shouldn't work. He can shine oos or just shield grab you very easily. Learn how to double shine. It's extremely useful in any matchup, but especially versus falco because you can use it two ways.

One, if you get a grab on the edge and they don't DI it, you can double shine them and then either grab the ledge or jump off and shine his up b since it's extremely easy to shine falco's up b. Jman does it a lot, watch his match versus PP.

Two, if you approach with nair and the opponent shields, you can double shine instead of nair shine and if he goes for a shield grab he will get shined and knocked down. Then you can tech chase into another shine or grab or whatever.

That's about everything. Good luck.

 

[prog]

I used to love the falco matchup. Then Chops moved over here and I realized how difficult it is. Really good falco players (like G$ and Chops) will tend to crouch cancel your nairs up until like 80% so you're going to have to use dair shine or just shine a lot more when you approach.

Notes taken.

Seriously, good luck at pound Tag$. Bring some white women back for me.

 

[nyc_tag$]

Notes taken.

Seriously, good luck at pound Tag$. Bring some white women back for me.

LOL

Thanks Prog. It's so wack that you're not coming

I'll definitely try to bring back madd *****es, although I believe NYC is where it's at when it comes to hot white girls

 

[PK Webb]

Good looks tag$ does any1 have any info that helps me deal with marth?????

 

[Zyzyx77]

Try checking Cunning's guide to Fox, there is a matchup list in there as well.

 

[PK Webb]

I read that guide a few times I mean what am I doin to this marth that would normally get me wrecked by a marth that plays at a higher level

 

[Turazrok]

I read that guide a few times I mean what am I doin to this marth that would normally get me wrecked by a marth that plays at a higher level

Approaching. I clicked on the vid and the first thing you did was run forwards... now you did get some nice damage, and if that's what works for you it's great.. BUT YOU HAVE GUN WITH UNLIMITED BULLETS

 

[PK Webb]

I understand the infinite bullet thing but these bullets don't stop the marth in his tracks he shrugs the bullets off like the governor of cali and grabs me

 

[Zyzyx77]

Approaching. I clicked on the vid and the first thing you did was run forwards... now you did get some nice damage, and if that's what works for you it's great.. BUT YOU HAVE GUN WITH UNLIMITED BULLETS

^what he said^

This is kinda ironic me saying this when Turazrok just gave the advice like 20 mins ago on the Q&A.

 

[Turazrok]

I understand the infinite bullet thing but these bullets don't stop the marth in his tracks he shrugs the bullets off like the governor of cali and grabs me

Joo faster den him ;...;