Help against Link or YL

[L.O.P.L.]

I find this match-up extremely hard, troublesome, and annoying. My friend is a really good, experienced Link ad YL player. I find his projectiles really distracting. They mess up my combos, they stun me for punishment, and they just really mess up my flow ad strategy.

I need help.

 

[ArcNatural]

Try to fair or neutral A projectiles when you can. As long as you l-cancel correctly you shouldn't get shield grabbed. Try to stay close to make projectiles risky for him to use.

 

[Betrayed]

Yeah... pretty much, as I recall Link can counter Marth at high levels of play. Don't quote me on that though, it's been awhile.

If you can get close you can be pretty abusive to Link... the projectiles are just annoying.

 

[Levitas]

One thing to note: being close means really being in their face. If you hang out just outside of swords range, you'll either get grabbed, or full power boomerangs will fly in your face, which really hurts. Links are much less dangerous once you push them off the stage, so get them there, and keep them there.

 

[Betrayed]

Not always practical...

I tend to avoid FD against Link, platforms mess with my friends Link a lot.

I don't know how higher level players would though.

 

[L.O.P.L.]

I'll try to get aggressive as efficiently possible against YL. I do hit back his boomerangs and such but he combos with them really good that I'll still get hit.

More advice is appreciated.

 

[Betrayed]

Practice makes perfect?

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Link gets screwed by marth's grabs, link can't defend himself very well at all in the air if you space well.

If the link isn't sweetspotting well, counter his up-b...I've seen too many marths try to f-smash a link that doesn't sweetspot and get caught up in the attack, just dumb.

If you are double fairing or spacing good, those projectiles shouldn't be hitting you unless you are charging him too fast..take your time in your approaches and slowly cut down the distance, hes bound to try to turn the tables and assault you during this so just be wary.

Link does NOT counter marth at all in high level play, hes not an easy matchup as the other low tiers, but countering him? very very wrong.

 

[Betrayed]

My apologies, I was misinformed then.

 

[Levitas]

I thought Marth and Link were even at high level play.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

I said that he wasn't an easy matchup, but by no means is he a counter...he can do well against marth, as many can, but not a counter by a long shot...people use the term counter regarding characters too loosely.

 

[Levitas]

Oh snap, it's like the Ness boards all over again. lol.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

Not really, link does get pwned by marth due to marth being able to handle his projectiles and outspace him pretty well. Link CAN do well against marth but meh, no counter, hes just a harder low tier match..not like anyone would intentionally go link against marth unless link happened to be their main.

 

[Levitas]

READ: I'm not arguing. I said they're even. I did not say that Link is a counter. You seem intent on that distinction. Please note when others do as well.

 

[thebluedeath1000]

how about you try reading for a change? Not agruing but you making statements and not going to back up what you say?

They aren't even either, marth has the advantage.

 

[Havokbringer]

Ok well before this turns into a flamefest I will give my incite:Marth>Link the match up is pretty easy once you know what to do so, like always grabs are essential you want to chain forward throws at low percent then mix it up with down throws to forward smash because even pros miss techs.(This is just a mindgame you could try for a tech chase forward smash instead too).Also if the marth f-smashes a link at tip range then it will not hit the marth, trust me it works but if you arent confident in your f-smash then go with a spaced downtilt to what ever you want(I would edgeguard by wavedashing onto the edge or f_smash).And blue death is very correct on marths counter it's way to easy to edge guard a link with it.So feel free to abuse that.

As for an approach spaced single shffled fairs to d-tilt or grab or dashdance away then grab.Really these are just suggestions not a real strategy all of these things work with the proper amount of practice and experience and in time you will realize your own methods and capatilize on his mistakes.Good luck and hopefully you gain something from this and if anything here is wrong go ahead and correct me.

 

[Chip.]

Marth certainly has the advantage against Link and Young Link, moreso on the small stages. At larger stages I would say that either of the Link's would go even with Marth.

 

[Stewie1288]

What the others said. Nair/fair projectiles, try to get in his face. Keep it close, gain control, punish. Simple.

 

[Overswarm]

Go for grabs and tech chases.

Go for fair to u-air combos, and follow those up with more hits.

Wait for him to pull out a boomerang before you run in; you have plenty of time if you space yourself well.

Edgeguard with b-airs off the ledge if he is going to hookshoot, counter if he is going to up+b.

Don't ever forget that you have your neutral b in the air; this is a great approach against link in the air as it hits above and in front of you quickly with little lag.

 

[flaco]

well against link you need to watch for porjectiles also use marth range and pority to over power links attack and the wd here helps alot to make marth even faster

 

[El_LoVo]

What? Link is way better than Marth.

I'll MM everyone in this thread. 11,000 dollars

What you wanna do againts link is predict when he'll pull out a projectile and then try to go in for the combo at that time.
Link *****

 

[flaco]

um there is a tier list for a reason

 

[Overswarm]

What? Link is way better than Marth.

I'll MM everyone in this thread. 11,000 dollars

What you wanna do againts link is predict when he'll pull out a projectile and then try to go in for the combo at that time.
Link *****

$11k?

Come to Kentucky.

 

[El_LoVo]

KFC?
you must be the kernel

 

[knightpraetor]

good thread..helped me a little...so more questions..obviously the biggest problem comes from link's bombs... should i still go in when he pulls out the boomerang when you know the bomb is coming next or should i just bait and dodge the bomb so i can approach afterwards...shrugs..it's just that link with bomb + boomerang can cut off many areas of approach