Having Trouble With a Samus...

[chainmaillekid]

OK, My friend is a Samus User, And I cant seem to beat him...

He likes to hang out on the edge, taking advantage of everything samus has got.
If Im aggressive, I usually end up just dieing at a low % Either from an edgegrab, or a spike.

Edgeguarding doesnt seem to work.

Thunderjolt spamming I can sometimes force him to get up, But I usually end up taking damage as well.

And when I do Get him up, He's Impossible to approach!
When Im far away he spams all his projectiles, And pikachu cant out spam it.
If I get close then he starts spamming Zair, Which Ive discovered, will KO pikachu at 250% :o

If I do manage to get through his Zair, Hes got that stupid grabble beam, And if im too aggressive I end up getting grabbed. But If Im not aggressive enough, He flees!

Anyway, He gives me problems.

 

[Anther]

You just gotta get better. I don't think samus should give any more problems than any other character in the cast, but here's a few things I can tell ya that should help.

If you're ever to beat someone good at ledge camping, you have to get just as good at an anti-ledge game. OS used to wreck everyone in the midwest because no one was confident off stage or at getting people off of the ledge, and he used to base a lot of his game on it... and it won and still wins a lot. BUT, learning a couple key things, and with pikachu especially (Who I believe to have the best offstage / ledgegame in Brawl...) should end your troubles.

Rule number one, you better not be lazy ;p. Practice edgehogging quickly. That means running off the ledge, fastfalling, and then pushing the stick a lil towards the stage so that you'll latch on as quickly as possible. You want that because you always want to be able to get to the ledge quickly and consistently, while at the same time be able to do it at the latest moment possible. Once you learn that, samus is usually forced to up-b to the stage because you're invincible. And that's a free punishment right there.

Another thing, mid distanced thunder jolts. I only really do this when I have a huge percentage advantage, but what can he really do if you're carefully throwing bolts while he's on the ledge? I think Samus might be able to fight you a lil bit with her projectiles but I kinda doubt it... Just don't over do it, looking scared is never good in a match.. and your other options are just so much better...

Run off the stage and throw out uairs, and quick attack back. Not many can do much about that if you time it correctly. Fall off with a uair, and if it misses because of his invincibility, jump again and do a neutral air. That'll start a whole mess of stage spikes and stuff that no one wants to be a part of.

Umm... hmm. When you shoot bolts, also try to hit him with the ball jolt instead of the weak traveling one. Jump off and side-b towards the ledge... all sorts of stuff, you have way too many options to be concerned about someone ledge camping. In my opinion Pika should always end up doing more damage to someone that's escaping the battlefield.

Basically, run off, grab ledge, drop do neutral airs, quick attack back, ledge hop off and shoot reverse thunder jolts, jump and fast fall a fair, and quick attack onto the ground if you're not gonna get to the ledge first. ... XD.

With your whole Zair issues.
wtffles you're pikachu. Jump over zair, run under it and roll behind him or something. If you keep getting grabbed stop doing things that get you grabbed ;p.

I never try to counter spam with spam. The only matchup I'm throwing bolts constantly really is against ROB. And I think my reasoning for that was because OS runs to the edge too much XD... and it slows his own projectile game. Counter Spam by jumping over it, power shielding, running over to them and throwing your shield up or fair-ing, or shielding into a downsmash... Just bunch of stuff. If you learn some more stuff Samus shouldn't give you a lot of trouble. Well.. she might, I don't want to completely underestimate the character, but if proper DI and everything, you should have a much easier time beating her than the other way around.

Edit: Whoa XD

 

[chainmaillekid]

Thank you Anther *tear*

But seriously, Thats an Epic reply!

Ill take all these tips and such into consideration!


Ill try to get a video or two next time I play... That way i can get specifics on what Im doing wrong

 

[ADHD]

Samus can't has a hard time against characters that get in their face so play massively aggressive and don't let her do that midranged spam

 

[[FBC] ESAM]

Just learn your opponents timing for using zair when he starts spamming it. It is really easy to power shield if you are expecting it. Samus MUST use it close to the ledge, becasue pikachu is a small character. Missiles are easy to see coming and you can power shield them easy. For the ledgecamping....idk. I am the most aggressive samus so i don't know her ledgecamping weakness.