Has anyone thought about after SSB4?

[vgfreek]

This might be the last smash game...They have had their run and unless Nintendo can get the children back on their side the xbox and play station might take away the audiences. I know the Wii U can make a comeback and they are intended for children due to their games but they might be losing their touch. I mean I was at my friends apartment complex and his little brother and his friends said "Yo (name) Lets go play Cod" Now I saw him, a 10 year old, grab an xbox controller and go to his house and its not just my friend. I'm seeing a big increase of kids under the age of 13 go towards xbox and play station. Does anyone have the fear of no more smash after this one?

 

[Vintage Creep]

No.

Seriously. No.

 

[Frostwraith]

This argument is disgusting.

 

[vgfreek]

Trust me I love smash and don't want to see it go but It's a possibility...I just wanted to see if im the only one thinking this also.

 

[Frostwraith]

Trust me I love smash and don't want to see it go but It's a possibility...I just wanted to see if im the only one thinking this also.

Your argumentation is horribly invalid, that's why no one will buy it.

By that logic, people who grew up in the NES/SNES days wouldn't be playing Smash. Also, you do realize that Smash has a lot of allusions to Nintendo games that are over 30 years old, right?

While many youngsters play more Xbox and PS3, that doesn't mean everyone plays on those consoles. I'm sure there are people here who are close to being 30 years old and still play Smash and are looking forward to Smash 4.

 

[vgfreek]

Nintendo cant keep the same audience forever. I'm not just suggesting that people are going to stop playing Smash because of Smashes sales. Im talking about their consoles. They haven't done anything OUTSTANDINGLY NEW. The Tablet is a nice touch but the Wii U might not make it out alive by the end of 2013. If Nintendo doesn't make a comeback from their sales then this could be the end. Im not saying smash might die because of kids not buying it im saying it might die because the Wii U dies.

 

[Frostwraith]

Nintendo cant keep the same audience forever. I'm not just suggesting that people are going to stop playing Smash because of Smashes sales. Im talking about their consoles. They haven't done anything OUTSTANDINGLY NEW. The Tablet is a nice touch but the Wii U might not make it out alive by the end of 2013. If Nintendo doesn't make a comeback from their sales then this could be the end. Im not saying smash might die because of kids not buying it im saying it might die because the Wii U dies.

You realize that, on the handheld market, Nintendo still dominates, yes?

Even if Nintendo stops making home consoles, they won't likely stop doing handhelds. Just look at 3DS's sales.

 

[Vintage Creep]

Nintendo going sixth party

 

[vgfreek]

But the Handhelds limit the amount of stuff they can do. I dont know specs and what not but i honestly think if they only kept it alive on handhelds then it would Lack in quality. The Handhelds are fun still and ARE drawing in the audiences but honestly if Smash in the future is going to be handheld only it might lose some of its audience.

 

[~automatic]

Nintendo is still VERY strong in Japan; where games like COD and many PS3/360 exclusives do poorly.

 

[J1NG]

Nintendo is still VERY strong in Japan; where games like COD and many PS3/360 exclusives do poorly.

This.
Also, I'm one of those people who doesn't like Nintendo's approach towards non-gaming casual players. Just because your games are suitable for everyone doesn't mean that they are going to appeal to everyone.

 

[Diddy Kong]

This might be the last smash game...They have had their run and unless Nintendo can get the children back on their side the xbox and play station might take away the audiences. I know the Wii U can make a comeback and they are intended for children due to their games but they might be losing their touch. I mean I was at my friends apartment complex and his little brother and his friends said "Yo (name) Lets go play Cod" Now I saw him, a 10 year old, grab an xbox controller and go to his house and its not just my friend. I'm seeing a big increase of kids under the age of 13 go towards xbox and play station. Does anyone have the fear of no more smash after this one?

 

[Vintage Creep]

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[Diddy Kong]

I actually have a picture of me with a face like that with my sister laughing at me.

 

[RomanceDawn]

VGfreek how old are you? Serious question. I didn't read the whole thread but how old are you and when did you start playing games?

Oh and when did you start paying attention to gaming trends and the gaming media?

 

[BridgesWithTurtles]

I wasn't aware that owning, playing, and/or enjoying Xbox and Playstation games means that one cannot support Nintendo. If Smash ends, it'll be because Nintendo wants it to. It won't be forced to end.

That being said, I still play Smash 64. I could go the rest of my life without any new Smash Bros. games; the current ones never grow stale for me. And that - superb gameplay designed to always provide a fun experience over time - is what makes Smash such a great series in the first place. It's what makes any game great. Smash has already proven itself as a stellar series. Plenty of great series end at their third or fourth installments. I wouldn't mind if Smash did, either, so long as it ended on a good note. I don't fear the series ending because it never ends for me.

 

[nessokman]

If the Wii u dies, the 3ds/handheld market becomes nintendo's thing. Smash on 3ds will be epic, and as far as visuals and quality go, the 3ds is amazing. I would say smash 3d will surpass brawl visually.If you think otherwise please go see a psychologist or view one of these 5 games-

Kid Icarus uprising
Mario kart 7
Luigis mansion dark moon
Monster hunter
Fire emblem awakening

 

[Neanderthal]

Nintendo cant keep the same audience forever. I'm not just suggesting that people are going to stop playing Smash because of Smashes sales. Im talking about their consoles. They haven't done anything OUTSTANDINGLY NEW. The Tablet is a nice touch but the Wii U might not make it out alive by the end of 2013. If Nintendo doesn't make a comeback from their sales then this could be the end. Im not saying smash might die because of kids not buying it im saying it might die because the Wii U dies.

The Wii U was never going to sell as much as the Wii.
BUT, it has literally no big titles out yet so you wouldn't expect it to be selling well yet.
Wait till we get the next Zelda, Mario and even Smash and the sales will increase. It's just a wonder why they rushed it out so early... Kind of takes the excitement and pzaz out of the console.

I see what you're saying about younger audiences getting into more mature games. I thought the same thing about ten years ago but time taught me that it's probably not going to be a big issue.
Nintendo almost have a monopoly on console gaming for younger audiences, the best grip on the casual market and wild popularity in Japan through all age groups. They will survive despite some western preteens deciding that the Xbox and Playstation are cooler.

 

[Dark Phazon]

You realize that, on the handheld market, Nintendo still dominates, yes?

Even if Nintendo stops making home consoles, they won't likely stop doing handhelds. Just look at 3DS's sales.

100000/ right!! I have been thinking about exact this! Nintendo if anything will give up making home consoles before handhelds there got more than enough ££££ to take a loss...dunno why PeePz are so up tight like suddenly they completely forget about how bad the 360 & PS3 launches were..and all the Bull* Money leeching overheating/hardware problems..

Nintendo is timeless/reliable there consoles are bricks there divine they cant be destroyed! My N64 still works to this day and i still play it with my older bro from quiet occasionally.

Just you watch when games like all the first party games comes out! PeePz would be pulling up there Knickers not even pants..because they lost there balls for not supporting or even having knowledge & just thinking WiiU is dead..

Nintendo is sooo G'd up that they dont even need 3rd party support...they never had strong 3rd Party support...there 1st party games are so dope they can & will carry the console just like pretty much the Wii & GC.

3D Metroid in HD = WET KNICKERS !!!

 

[FalKoopa]

This is the most pessimistic thread on SmashBoards.

 

[Dark Phazon]

This is the most pessimistic thread on SmashBoards.

Really? XD i thought the

''The worst thing that could happen in Sm4sh''

Thread was... Or the ''Why Sm4sh will suck'' thread...

 

[Frostwraith]

This is the most pessimistic thread on SmashBoards.

By pessimistic, you mean stupid, I hope...

 

[Dark Phazon]

By pessimistic, you mean stupid, I hope...

Lowla....

 

[FalKoopa]

Really? XD i thought the

''The worst thing that could happen in Sm4sh''

Thread was... Or the ''Why Sm4sh will suck'' thread...

Those threads outright stated that were meant to be jokes. This one isn't, which makes it stupider.

By pessimistic, you mean stupid, I hope...

You can have it that way.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Those threads outright stated that were meant to be jokes. This one isn't, which makes it stupider.


You can have it that way.

Seems like some PeePz took it serious...enough...(#_#)

 

[Beninator]

If the Wii u dies, the 3ds/handheld market becomes nintendo's thing. Smash on 3ds will be epic, and as far as visuals and quality go, the 3ds is amazing. I would say smash 3d will surpass brawl visually.If you think otherwise please go see a psychologist or view one of these 5 games-

Kid Icarus uprising
Mario kart 7
Luigis mansion dark moon
Monster hunter
Fire emblem awakening

Mario Kart 7 had pretty horrible looking characters IMO, and you left out Resident Evil: Revelations!

 

[Dark Phazon]

What im gonna do after? Errmmmm... Probly have a bath because ima be sweating it out sooo hard in training mode like some 733T iPrOoO Visionz Cok of Doody MLG Scrub.

 

[DakotaBonez]

Smash Flash 2 and Project M might be
finished after Smash Bros 4.

 

[Orngeblu]

Trust me I love smash and don't want to see it go but It's a possibility...I just wanted to see if im the only one thinking this also.

Well, read all these posts talking about how the Wii U is dying an such because sales were bad, and I kinda felt like they were right. I took a second look at it, and we can't really know the future. In fact, Nintendo should know what they're doing. We need new games, and it will revive. (Not saying it's dead now).

This pretty much goes for smash, except NO WAY is it going to die any time soon. NOPE. It's not even close. My point of that was, have faith! It'll pull through just fine.

 

[The Real Gamer]

OP this thread is bad and you should feel bad.

 

[Dark Phazon]

OP this thread is bad and you should feel bad.

It is what it is...the fact of the matter is the WiiU is doing back as of right now....

 

[The Real Gamer]

That's a given... his arguments as to why there might not be another SSB are what I find silly.

 

[Dark Phazon]

That's a given... his arguments as to why there might not be another SSB are what I find silly.

Hmmm expecially these dayz...as long as it prints money its good to go.

 

[DakotaBonez]

If the Wii u dies, the 3ds/handheld market becomes nintendo's thing. Smash on 3ds will be epic, and as far as visuals and quality go, the 3ds is amazing. I would say smash 3d will surpass brawl visually.If you think otherwise please go see a psychologist or view one of these 5 games-
Kid Icarus uprising
Mario kart 7Luigis mansion dark moon
Monster hunter
Fire emblem awakening

I thought that the 3DS could match the gamecube graphically. But when you compare Luigi's Mansion on the gamecube to the new one on the 3DS, the character models on the gamecube look way better...or at least smoother. Makes ya really appreciate the console's way of anti aliasing. It's like they ported over the character models from the gamecube and they came out with jaggedy edges on the 3DS. Actually, every 3DS game with 3D character models in it is crazy jagged. Do they look better on the actual 3DS screen?

As far as the quality of the games goes,no doubt the 3DS can make and handle some awesome titles.

 

[TigerBizNiz]

This guy is kidding, right? I mean even if SSB4 is indeed the last game of the series, it's not gonna stop me from having fun with it. As of today I still play Brawl, Melee, and hell even the N64 original! They are all fun in their own unique ways.. unlike games with recycled game mechanics like the Call Of Duty series! (No offence to anyone who's a fan) SSB 4 LIFE!

 

[Tweezer Salad]

It's possible, so lets hope they make it perfect and it will last for years to come, like Melee has.

 

[SSBCandidates]

I really don't believe this thread nor OP are stupid nor bad. I for once don't want to see Nintendo fall, and hope that with Smash 4, the Wii U will lift up. But things may not look nice for Nintendo if the Nextboxestation4-720 are a success. This in the face of 4K TV. Sure it is still new and expensive, but some Chinese company did a 4K TV at budget price (still expensive though; and who knows if other brand name companies will quickly follow.

Players would want to enjoy their 4K games on 4K TVs. Of course this is new, and expensive but the experience and prices might go down quickly than BluRay and HD so the average consumer can reach it, Still the downfall would be that the MS and Sony consoles would be too expensive. And I doubt they would drop prices quickly unlike I see it on 4K TVs. Today, the Super Slim PS3 is not cheaper than a Slim PS3 which many believe is the best of the 3 models in design; and right now there are better and cheaper BluRay players. So only unaware people buy PS3s thinking they are buying the best BluRay player in the market.

So where I see it is that once again Nintendo will succeed by not sticking to the latest definition quality, and high prices from rival consoles (despite Nintendo says they are not in competition against them). But could go down if the Third Party conspiracy is true, SSB4 is a failure, and Sony and MS give their consoles at afforable prices, maybe a bit more expensive than the Wii U, but still there.

Really, am worried for Nintendo for this generation. Also something to consider. Sony finally has a franchise to rival Smash, but it was not quite successful. I have played the game, and I would have to recognize it is actually a fun game! But Sony is something weird for me. They are a Japanese company, but most of their best known franchises are from the west, and popular in the west. PSASBR was developed in the west and tried to pander it despite having Japanese characters in it. I was amazed they handled characters like Toro, Heihachi and Kat well. Some say that PSASBR is dead as the developer is dead, but what if the sequel is developed by someone else or even in Japan (where the game was a bigger failure due to the heavy wetsern influence)?

If made in Japan, the game would most likely have Japanese game mechanics and would probably be even more similar to Smash rather than trying to emulate it (we all saw the pics, that at Superbot they have Wiis with SSBB). And it would be a hit in Japan and most likely in the west too. But if a possible PSASBR sequel is made in Japan, would they handle the western characters and elements properly? Or overwhelm Japanese ones? If they do it would be unfair as Sony has plenty of characters worldwide which desere equal good treatment. It would be more likely that Japanese players would not pick western characters so they will need something to motivate playing with them.

Where I am getting with this? Well that if Sony decides for the PSASBR franchise to live on, then Smash really has to place more effort to compete and show differences between the franchises. Nintendo doesn't have much of the issues Sony does have. Most of its characters and franchises are Japanese, with few western ones (Eternal Darkness, Geist); though they had more but lost them all when they sold Rare (Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct), so their characters have better reception, proof is when Roy and Marth appeared at Melee. (Japanese players have a hard time accepting Kratos, Sweet Tooth and even Nariko who is Japanese but made in the west. Not sure if they would accept Alexandra Rovias, Pious Augustus and/or John Raimi). Nintendo with the Smash franchise now has to work extra hard, which is good in this competitive market but if the PSASBR franchise is dead and they work hard to compete against it... would it be worth it? For us players of course, but for the development team? They may feel they worked too hard for nothing.

Oh and then there is Microsoft. We know they don't have their "All-Stars Smash" series. But lately, I imagine they could get in the game despite they say they would not do it. However even if they did, I am sure the game would be an epic fail in Japan where the characters are not even popular. Unless they get good support from the Blue Dragon series, and maybe add all the characters from Idolmaster. But the west is bigger than Japan and MS basically owns the west; which would buy the game as they would look at it as the "hardcore" Smash game. Maybe MS might go as far as even placing violence and gore in it. Not kidding by not even placing characters like Banjo (maybe Conker).

Wow I wrote a lot.

 

[Deleted member]

This is the Best Thread on Smashboards, period.

lel

 

[Dark Phazon]

Its a pretty good thread yh...although the WiiU may have a rough time will actually...trust me...it wont be from PSBAR....

 

[Zenokidz]

...I can't comprehend...this thread...