Has anyone found any viable edge-guarding tactics?

[JC Ralls]

I find it a bore having to wait on the stage as the opponent inevitability makes their recovery. Jumping off stage and attacking can have merit with certain characters, but a lot of characters have such rediculous recovery now, they can just as easily dodge you and make it back to the stage, leaving you in just as dangeous a position if you're not grounded.

Are there any particular characters or techniques that anyone has found that can safely edge-guard, or any characters that can be edge-guarded against (besides LM)?

 

[Qbopper]

Little Mac's Dsmash almost always nets me a KO if I can get it to connect. Ii can be tricky to bait them into going for the ledge, but if I can make them think I plan on hitting them with an Usmash or Utilt then they will usually jump right into the Dsmash.

I don't know much but it works well for me.

 

[Cpt.]

Sheik can do work edge guarding. Watch the Tourney Locator tournament and look out for Denti.

Villager's tree and bowling ball are good.

Jr.'s down smash can work.

And of course spikes are always good if you can trick people into dodging early.

 

[ScubaGoomba]

This, mostly. There's a video around (which I can't find) of a Ganondorf using this into a bair to keep opponents off stage. I'm sure the same idea would apply to any other character with a good bair.

 

[ketchup799]

With Rosaluma i've got:

- Charge B and launch luma at them when they double jump (or whenever they are even with my level
- Have luma wait near the edge and side+b
- Have luma further out and do any tilt or smash when they get close
- jump and fair/bair (usually dodge-able, but with luma out as a distraction it sometimes works)

 

[Kit Cal-N]

There's lots and lots. Stop waiting. Don't play it safe. Get crazy kills.

cover the earth

 

[sssetz]

Yeah, the change to edge guarding has, IMO, made the game A LOT more interesting around the edges. You have to take risks and go for Meteor Smashes/Spikes which is awesome.

 

[DownWitDaWaveDash]

Or you can just choose shiek and go to the ledge and nullify anything

 

[Raijinken]

Read their recovery, meteor, repeat. It's about time we had an interesting ledge game.

 

[MattTheGameFreak]

As an Ike main (mostly Ike examples following), I use Eruption so that the sword will hang off the edge, and then follow-up with an attack when they are launched upwards (this was very difficult in Brawl due to stronger edge sweetspotting). I also will go out and Fair if necessary (it works most of the time). Down-tilt is also great for people who do not sweetspot the edge right away, especially effective against Little Mac, pushing opponent out horizontally (I wish it still Meteor Smashed, but it's much easier to hit in this game and would be broken if it did). Dair is also an obvious option, and it's easier to spike with in Smash 4, because unlike Brawl most of the hit actually spikes now, but it lost a lot of range. The Reverse Aether Spike done without SDing is now impossible because Ike can no longer recover in reverse with Aether, but it will still spike HARD. Instead the safer option is go off the edge and recover normally with Aether. If Ike hits the opponent this way, they will be spiked HARD. Aether on the stage to catch opponents who decide to go over the edge isn't a bad way to deal damage.

If I feel like catching someone off guard, I will jump onto the edge and ledge trump them and then follow-up the best I can with maybe a Bair. If it fails, it'll at least leave them shaken up a bit, feeling a bit less secure.

If the person has made it to the edge, I will predict which recovery option they will take from there and punish it. Most people will not go for the jump, and will instead go to a roll or stand-up/attack, so I punish with a Fair as it leaves me the least open if it fails. People who hang on the edge too long can be hit, so a Fair to the edge works at that point too.

 

[sssetz]

The edge game has become so much more fun and interesting its rad. Meteor smashing has never been more crucial and exciting.

 

[LancerStaff]

With Pit, it's just Fairs all day with the occasional Upperdash.

 

[Gatoray]

Wait for them to stall on the ledge because they forget they lose invincibility after the first regrab, then walk over and Dair. (Only works on scrubs)

 

[Drexel]

Greninja is quite good at edgeguarding in my opinion. His shirken has enough power to KO high percentage foes when fully charged. His Bair is a great multi-strike move and has some power to it and his Dair if hit right is a powerful spike that'll send foes straight down. Hydro Pump when used facing away from foes also pushes them further away from the stage.

 

[Collective of Bears]

As Bowser Jr, I like dropping my Up B on people who try to recover low. Safe for me and hilarious when it works. "Thought you were gonna grab ledge? Nah, hold this car."

 

[Roko Jono]

Be Falcon. Drop-Zone (Run off ledge knee). Or back-air

 

[g00dapollo]

Anyone have any idea's/tips for edgeguarding with ? I'm still learning edgeguarding in general, any help is appreciated.

 

[ChronoPenguin]

Enter Monado Jump. Follow them to the god damn blast zone like a boss with a fair or meteor dair. Spam taunt.

So many characters with good recoveries its absurd. Got to play aggresive