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Hardest Matchups

Daedatheus

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The platforms on Dreamland make it easier for Jigglypuff to approach DK, giving her more maneuverability through the air.
Too true. Jiggly becomes death from above as DK is such a fat target, and Jiggs can edgeguard the crap out of DK with minimal effort. On the ground, Jiggs is always crushed into a ball by DK's long arms and easy spikes :laugh:
 

Surri-Sama

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Too true. Jiggly becomes death from above as DK is such a fat target, and Jiggs can edgeguard the crap out of DK with minimal effort. On the ground, Jiggs is always crushed into a ball by DK's long arms and easy spikes :laugh:
This is very true so lets give this some numbers

DK vs Jiggly, Hyrule 70-30% for DK
DK vs Jiggly, Dreamland 60-40% for DK


sound good?
 

NixxxoN

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I think Mario owns both Falcon and Ness (and probably more), hes a really hard match up if you use those two.
 

MattNF

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Yeah, Falcon vs Mario is dum for Falcon, lol. Especially on Dreamland, where he can backthrow KO you at like 0%.
 

Skrlx

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I used to dread over the thought ofversing good foxes but not anymore they're kinda easy now..

but what i fear most now is.. pikachus >>
 

MattNF

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Hardest matchup in the game: Jiggly vs Luigi

Unless you're playing as Luigi, then it's one of the easiest matchups. :p
 

Surri-Sama

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Is for or against fox?

Personally I would have to say for fox, Samus is not that hard to combo actually with Drills or F/bairs, plus edge guarding isn’t hard what so ever
 

KoRoBeNiKi

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i find ness one of the easier matches for my samus

My least favorite matchup for my falcon is fox
My leasft favorite matchup for my yoshi is kirby
 

Skrlx

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used to be fox.. but now it's that **** rat pikachu
D:
 

marthmaster04

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People that need hyrule to win, its like ppls skills halfly vanish without that stage...>.> but rly DK vs my Fox is a pain in the ***. I have no real other bad matches, unless its GOOD throw gimp marios on dreamland.
 

Surri-Sama

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easiest matchup for my kirby: falcon
toughest matchup for my pika: another pika
just trying to get the opinion of anohter pika main, do you have any trouble with Marios...how about you Roche?

i find Marios Uairs--> Usmash combos devistating, i mean on DL at 70%...dead...

AUGGGHHH


CharlieBrown=D
 

Skrlx

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my mario is quite the kirby killer... why i played the famous matts kirby twice. and both games i won
in one of them i 4 stocked him after he said he was gonna "try"

sniff.


i have videos :3
 

swebits98

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hard match up is DK vs Fox. Fox has hard time here

hey guys i will put up some more of my match vids soon. we are recording some more matches tonight

>=]
 

AvengerAngel

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Wow, I'll gladly watch your new vids :D

btw, I don't think DK has an advantage over Fox. Fox can combo DK very easily and if you fear DK's grabs you can just run away and laser-spam the hell out of it :O
 

swebits98

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thnx
im talking about pro fox and dk's. especially on dreamland fox can get *****. not talking about average fox and dk.
 

AvengerAngel

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Well, Fox has a crappy recovery... this means if he gets grabbed and thrown out of the stage he will have a hard time trying to recover, but you know, at pro levels it's almost "one hit = one z2d combo". Since Fox has the laser approaching and very good aerials, if DK gets hit it is quite sure Fox will take a stock from it.
I don't have a good DK though, so I don't really know how to do z2d combos on Fox with it :x
 

swebits98

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hmm its true. but i would rather be DK on dreamland than fox >=] unless your fox is isai or maltfox ;)
 

maltfox

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Hi, swebits98 told me to register here. You might have seen my friends videos. I think donkey kong does very well against fox on dreamland stage too.
 

maltfox

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Thanks. We recorded some videos today. Swebits98 said he will upload them to here soon.
 

Surri-Sama

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hmm its true. but i would rather be DK on dreamland than fox >=] unless your fox is isai or maltfox ;)
will you do stuff for me too if i has a good fox ;D

Hi, swebits98 told me to register here. You might have seen my friends videos. I think donkey kong does very well against fox on dreamland stage too.
no johnz p2p soon...unless you suck....P2P!!!!!1ii (i = upsidedown exclamation point)
 

asianaussie

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Ah, good to see you, though in all seriousness I can't really name a great Pika who plays on Desiree's. Judas and Sweet Revenge have no mindgames at all, just tech skill (but frequently lose to me, the keyboard player), and Kuromatsu hates playing top tiers (but is probably the best player on our server). But if you play me and Kuro more, you could probably get right up there if you tried :D
I have to agree with you there. Most of my wins with Pika come from aerial mindgames or good prediction, and even then I get outplayed by most of you. Still, getting a win here or there is nice, and using Pika isn't easy when you think about it. I can't get falling U-Airs without an extra jump consistently (on the keyboard :\), which really hurts when I know that it could have meant a KO. Looks like I need more practice, huh?
 

Surri-Sama

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I have to agree with you there. Most of my wins with Pika come from aerial mindgames or good prediction, and even then I get outplayed by most of you. Still, getting a win here or there is nice, and using Pika isn't easy when you think about it. I can't get falling U-Airs without an extra jump consistently (on the keyboard :\), which really hurts when I know that it could have meant a KO. Looks like I need more practice, huh?
do you play online?
 
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