Guide: Pit's Early % Character Combo: COMPLETE

[CHOMPY]

Hi everyone. I'm here to talk about the possibilites of what you can do with Pit against characters you can land some early follow up moves on. This will be more of a reference, so players can look it up and see which moves work on certain characters, depending on the weight/fall speed/size.

General combos to use:

Fthrow - dash attack
Dthrow - any aerials, dash attack, and up smash
Bthrow - dash attack
Dthrow - fair - grab (on fast fallers and heavies)

Characters

Bowser:

• Fthrow - Dash Attack - Usmash
• Fthrow - usmash
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - fair
• Dthrow - nair

Bowser Jr.:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - fair to ftilt
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Captain Falcon:

• Fthrow - Dash Attack - Usmash
• Bthrow - Dash Attack
• Dthrow - Usmash
• Dthrow - Uair/Nair/Fair

Charizard:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Dark Pit:

• Fthrow to dash attack
• Fthrow to dash attack to Usmash (it's possible if your opponent doesn't react to the Usmash)
• Bthrow to dash attack
• Dthrow to nair
• Dthrow to fair to ftilt
• Dthrow to Uair
• Dthrow to Usmash

Donkey Kong:

• Dthrow - Usmash
• Fthrow - Uair/Fair/Nair
• Bthrow - Dash Attack

Diddy Kong:

• Fthrow - Dash attack.
• Dthrow - Usmash
• Dthrow - Uair/Nair/Fair
• Bthrow - Dash Attack

Dr. Mario:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - full hop fair
• Dthrow - full hop nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Duck Hunt Dog:

• Fthrow to dash attack
• Bthrow to dash attack
• Dthrow to nair
• Dthrow to fair
• Dthrow to Uair
• Dthrow to Usmash

Falco:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Fox:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Game & Watch:

• Bthrow - dash attack
• Fthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - usmash
• Dthrow - full hop fair
• Dthrow - full hop nair
• Dthrow - uair

Ganondorf:

• Fthrow - dash attack - usmash
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - fair - grab
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Greninja:

• Dthrow - Uair/Nair/Fair
• Dthrow - Fair - Utilt

Ike:

• Bthrow - dash attack
• Fthrow - dash attack - Usmash
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - fair - utile
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash
• Nair - fair

Jigglypuff:

• Dthrow - Full Hop Uair/Nair/Fair

King DeDeDe:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Kirby:

• Dthrow - full hop fair
• Dthrow - full hop nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Link:

• Fthrow - dash attack - Usmash
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash
• Dthrow - fair - utilt
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - nair

Little Mac:

• Fthrow - Dash Attack - Usmash.
• Bthrow - Dash Attack.
• Dthrow - Uair/Fair/Nair
• Dthrow - Usmash

Lucario:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Lucina:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Marth:

• Fthrow - dash attack - usmash
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - short hop nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Metaknight:

• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Miis: They are really hard to combo, due to their size and weight.

Mega Man:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - usmash
• Dthrow- Nair/Uair

Ness:

• Dthrow - Nair/Uair
• Dthrow - Usmash
• Bthrow - Dash Attack

Olimar:

• Dthrow - Uair

Pac Man:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - fair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Palutena:

• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - full hop nair
• Dthrow - full hop fair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Peach:

• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - full hop nair (Peach can DI away from nair)
• Dthrow - full hop fair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Pikachu:

• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Pit:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Fthrow - dash attack to usmash (it's possible if your opponent doesn't react to the Usmash)
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - full hop nair
• Dthrow - fair to ftilt
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Rob:

• Fthrow - dash attack (He can escape from that if the Pit player doesn't buffer his dash attack)
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - full hop nair
• Dthrow - fair to ftilt (If spaced properly)
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Robin:

• Fthrow - dash attack - Usmash
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - fair - utilt
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash
• Nair - fair

Rosalina + Luma:

• Bthrow - Dash Attack.
• Dthrow - Uair/Fair/Nair
• Dthrow - Usmash

Samus:

• Bthrow - dash attack
• Fthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - full hop fair
• Dthrow - full hop nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Sheik:

• Bthrow - dash attack
• Fthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - grab (rinse repeat)
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Shulk:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - fair to ftilt (has to if thrown onstage, and if you input quickly enough)
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Sonic:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow- uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Toon Link:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - full hop fair
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Villager:

• Bthrow - dash attack - usmash (Requires buffering)
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - uair

Wario:

• Fthrow - dash attack
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - usmash
• Dthrow - fair - grab
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Wii Fit Trainer:

• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - full hop fair
• Dthrow - full hop nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Yoshi:

• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - fair
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - usmash
• Fthrow - dash attack

Zelda:

• Bthrow - dash attack - usmash
• Dthrow - full hop fair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash
• Nair - uair
• Dthrow - full hop nair

Zero Suit Samus:

• Fthrow - dash attack - usmash
• Bthrow - dash attack
• Dthrow - fair - grab
• Dthrow - fair - ftilt
• Dthrow - fair - utilt
• Dthrow - nair
• Dthrow - uair
• Dthrow - usmash

Note:

-If your not quick enough to dash attack, your opponent can tech roll on the ground to avoid getting hit from the dash attack.

-Keep in mind that these combos only work under 20%.

-If Pit has over 100%, these combos are harder to land with because the knockback changes. Making it more difficult for Pit to hit the other characters.

-Against the heavies where you do the Fthrow to DA, you can deal more percentage when you throw them right in the middle of the stage. Otherwise, if you throw them off the stage, you'll be way out of your reach when your trying to hit them with your dash attack. So its better to do a Dthrow to Usmash/Nair/Uair.

-Miis can be hard to combo at times, due to their random size and weight.

I'll work on the rest later. Hope this guide helps us fellar Pit players out!

If anyone else has tested out the early percentage combos, please share them!

: )

UPDATE:

11/14/14

Dicovered a cool combo on certain characters. Dthrow to fair to grab on fast fallers and heavies.
Added everyone on the early percentage combo chart.

11/10/14

• Added Fox, Falco, Pikachu, Charizard, Lucario, Lucina, Dr. Mario, Wii Fit Trainer, Kirby, King DeDeDe, and Metaknight.

11/7/14:

• Added Pac Man, Dark Pit, Pit, Paluena, Shulk, Rob, Bowser Jr, and Duck Hunt Dog
• Updated Peach, Bowser, and Captain Falcons early % combos.
• Fixed the grammar and punctuation ; )

11/2/14:

• Added Donkey Kong, Jigglypuff, Link, Little Mac, and Peach.
• Revamped the chart

 

[LEGOfan12]

This is very helpful. Thanks!

 

[SwoodGrommet]

Wow this is really helpful, thanks for going to the trouble of doing this! The aspect of mastering these combos is a pretty exciting challenge for me

 

[Xmark]

Pit is gonna be the new mk, I'm calling it.

 

[CHOMPY]

Thanks you guys! I really appreciate the support you guys are giving me! This makes me want to work on this even further. If you notice, I updated the page to make it look more organized, and easier to read. Also, I added some new characters onto the chart as well! Please check them out and feel free to say anything!

 

[LancerStaff]

Dash attack combos into Usmash or something on above average weight characters. Can't remember exactly... I forgot over the weekend.

 

[Sparky15]

This follow-up works on any character in the mid-low percentages if done right in time. Pit can do d-throw -> d-air. You can then get another consecutive hit with another d-air, n-air, or up-air. You need to jump, though. I think you can even follow-up with two d-airs in time after a d-throw and then follow-up with an up-air.

Also, I did d-throw -> up-air -> up-tilt on Captain Falcon, and the combo counter in Training mode counted it as 7 consecutive hits. I tried doing it again, but it kept failing. Maybe if the opponent DIs/VIs towards your up-air. This combos either works on fast-fallers or just Captain Falcon...:/

 

[FiXalaS]

on medium to heavy weight characters, DThrow to UAir works around 50s% I believe, unless the ones I'm facing aren't DIing well

 

[Kaynel]

Pit is gonna be the new mk, I'm calling it.

Except he won't be banned

 

[CHOMPY]

I updated the thread, if you guys want to check it out!

If your not sure what I updated, you can check out the "updated section" on the bottom of the page.

: )

 

[MatrixNexus]

Thanks. This will be very useful for practicing combos.

 

[Khao]

This is probably worse than just doing DThrow>Dair>Something, but I've found that when doing a Dair on the way up from a full hop (if you don't sweetspot it) you get a free combo into pretty much any aerial quite consistently at around 60-80%. You just do a fullhop, immediately do a dair, then jump again into another move.

 

[Strider_123]

wow thanks for the combo's! very good job putting these together. have any plans on making videos as well?

 

[CHOMPY]

I do have gameplay footage of myself pull off some of these combos. Problem is have to grab them before they get over 20%. However, if you do manage to grab them, thats a free 14-21% of damage right there.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTi0sS-XcXCvpkb6C8dRKsQ

 

[Ikieri]

Wouldn't it be easier to list them by Weight?
Like put the light and heavy characters into their own category.

 

[LancerStaff]

Wouldn't it be easier to list them by Weight?
Like put the light and heavy characters into their own category.

There's other factors like fall speed, air speed, and their fastest aerial. Won't help much in the long run.

 

[Kibzu~]

Pit is gonna be the new mk, I'm calling it.

Just . . . just no. . . He has so little potential. after maining him i see him as low mid tier. potential for solid mid.

 

[ReRaze]

@ CHOMPY Just my two cents. My brother is a Greninja main and I manage to do down throw into fair into up tilt. Im pretty sure you can also do dash attack into up smash.

 

[CHOMPY]

@ ReRaze Thanks for the input!

Finally, I've completed the entire early % chart! Hope you guys enjoy it and find it to be useful!

Another thing I found was you can perform a dthrow to a short hop fair and then a grab against heavies and fast fallers.

 

[Kibzu~]

With heavies its better to fair drag .

 

[FiXalaS]

Just . . . just no. . . He has so little potential. after maining him i see him as low mid tier. potential for solid mid.

Mid to high I'd say.

His only problem is a safe and fast killing move.. (his aerials don't really kill.. why?)

 

[ReRaze]

Mid to high I'd say.

His only problem is a safe and fast killing move.. (his aerials don't really kill.. why?)

True, I normally have to get my opponents up to the 150% range to kill (using his grab, fair, bair, down smash)
Otherwise I just try to gimp them or meteor smash them.

his safest smash is his down smash which has very little lag time if any. If you manage to punish someone with a forward smash or up smash it kills pretty early around 100-120%

 

[Kibzu~]

hes low mid. ive mained him. used him in tourneys. he has a few good MU's hes 100% low mid. with potential of a good player; mid.

 

[Runawayfire]

hes low mid. ive mained him. used him in tourneys. he has a few good MU's hes 100% low mid. with potential of a good player; mid.

Stop speaking with such authority, you're 100% looking like a jackass right now.
Pit has the reach and speed to compete way better than low-mid.
Maybe you're just a low-mid level player?

 

[Kibzu~]

Stop speaking with such authority, you're 100% looking like a ******* right now.
Pit has the reach and speed to compete way better than low-mid.
Maybe you're just a low-mid level player?

I honestly dont care what i look like. the fact you added ******** shows some stuff m8.
Anyway, if you are comparing pit to the rest of the cast it shows why hes put there. ok he has a good recovery + Spacing tools. But lacks kills, pressure and his projectile game isnt the best now. im not a low mid player but hes top low mid maybe solid mid. Comparing it like this, top 1 being rosa. top 10 being along the lines of someone like wario/ness then top 20 i see being bowser now bowser at the start was "Top tier" but has basically gone down in the minds of others so hes top mid. now i would say pits around the 27-33 mark. Its not about speed / reach , its more about options and the types of games he can play. pit dont have the best options now does he. and with smash 4 being a more defensive game then agro. thats a bit hard for him. if you want i can vs any of you that think hes mid and will demonstrate why hes not.

 

[Runawayfire]

I'm only using your own tone against you in the first line.
What makes you think 27+ characters have better options than pit? The game is very defensive, but saying pit struggles to find options any more than the 27 characters above him is insane.
I am very much down to play, I'm in central canada, will add you.
3067 5744 4149

 

[Kibzu~]

kk im up for it PM me

 

[Kibzu~]

Sorry im a bit rusty. i dont barley play 4 as ive been learning melee and PM lol. but pits very hard to. for now im just gonna play some friendlies, My PM / Smash 4 pits are confused ._.

 

[Kibzu~]

Going random btw lol

 

[Runawayfire]

It's very hard for us to communicate while playing like this, and I'm not sure what it's supposed to prove at this point...
If you would like we can play again later?

 

[Kibzu~]

Lol just play friendlies or add my skype?
super pro getting characters i dont know XD
i dont know. i just wanted a pit ditto tbh xD also PM is 2 fast 2
nice villager

 

[Runawayfire]

We'll play some more later if you like, we're not really getting anywhere with me playing my real characters and you playing random.
Either way, I'm really skeptical about pit being low tier. You need some more faith in our boy!

 

[Kibzu~]

Pit dont have options thats why hes low tier, he's kinda stiff as well. not only am i saying this as a proper pit main but other friends that main pit and are big in the scene. oh well GG's. Sm4sh is boring tbh. even some pit mains say hes low tier. if he had a easier kill with a few of his atks. and uperdash arm killed at 110% then he would be ok. but he only has good ftilt/fsmash reach and some good grab games with air atks. overall his options are outmatched to alot of the cast.
i have faith for the wii u version. in that i see solid mid. but for now low mid.

 

[Runawayfire]

Personally I find his biggest problem is just killing people. I tend to play him like brawl falco in that you can't force kills, just attempt to raise percent until it comes naturally. It's kind of hard to talk about everyone else in the cast at once concerning options vs Pit's options, so we're going to have to agree to disagree for now. GG's.

 

[Kibzu~]

Me saying pits low mid doesnt mean hes bad lol. smash 4 mid - low mid isnt a big jump in quality. but hes just stiff i guess and predictable.

 

[FiXalaS]

Me saying pits low mid doesnt mean hes bad lol. smash 4 mid - low mid isnt a big jump in quality. but hes just stiff i guess and predictable.

I honestly disagree, the only character I mained is Pit since ever.

Smash 4 Pit is much much better than Brawl Pit, the only 2 things Brawl Pit has over Smash 4 Pit is Gliding and it's attack( was a beautiful killing move) and the Awesomely beautiful Bair (I hope the balance update makes the Bair a killing move.. at least at 120%)

But Smash 4 Pit is Faster, and deals damage faster, and has even more options on stage and off stage (and I actually prefer Smash 4 arrows)

Pit faces trouble against fast characters like Sheik, Greninja and ZSS, but has the advantage over almost every other character in the game.

I think giving Pit an aerial killing move would instantly make him top tier because you can fly with him with ease

 

[Kibzu~]

having an kill move arial wont change alot. . its so easy to do mind games with bair that kills at 130% or so. Speed doesnt matter. . . its a defensive game. He barley has alot of safe options, ok he has reach with fairs/ftilt but its not like you can use them to win. He dont have the best approach and awfully depends on grabs to get dmg up and even so he does not at all deal damage fast. dealing fast damage is Ness or sheik or diddy with their silly drags/juggles. pit has trouble with alot of the cast, honestly, He can destroy most heavies "with ease" eg bowser, DK , DDD. Also i think hes good against pacman, lucario but thats all. You cannot at all compare pit with top tier. top 5 being like rosalina, Diddy, sheik, lucario, ness / greninja and such or a mid high being mario. hes too picky to be played with.

 

[ShadowSlashX]

Wow this is a great list! Gotta go practice and train the muscle memory for it.

 

[Morlock138]

Yeah, my Pit needs some practice. After playing w/ him and 10 or so other characters, he seemed the weakest. Hard to get KOs with. I'll still stick with him as a secondary anyway. He's fun to play as. I will be able to play him better w/ my Gamecube controller. All this info is sure to help too!

 

[chipndip]

If Pit is low mid, I'm a Palutena main.

...and I'm not. Mid at worst.