Grass Knot is broken (12/11/09)

[supermarth64]

It does absurds amount of damage. It KOes Sdef Skarm and 60% Salamence, and it KOed a Heatran.

Jumpluff gets 4HKOed because it's a beast.

+6 Crit Specs Overgrow Grass Knot from Modest Sceptile to a level 1 0 HP IV 0 Sdef IV Naive Onix:

<supermarth64> Sceptile used Grass Knot.
<supermarth64> It's super effective!
<supermarth64> A critical hit!
<supermarth64> Onix lost 83036218% of its health.
<supermarth64> supermarth64's Onix fainted.

Probably going to be fixed soon.

 

[xLeafybug =D]

Yeah, I noticed it too. I was just too lazy to make a thread about it.

 

[Mr. Johan]

Grass Knot is the special equivalent of Low Kick. The heavier the opponent, the more damage it causes.

Jumpluff weighs 4 pounds. That's why it takes so long to KO it, even with Grass Knot at Max power, whereas Heatran, Skarmory, and Salamence, who are heavier, take less time to take out.

 

[Wave⁂]

I was waiting for someone to take that post seriously.

 

[UltiMario]

This board is full of people that can't understand OBVIOUS jokes.

 

[Riddle]

Pffft Grass Knot is nothing to the power of Rollout.

+6 CB 252 Adamant Power Tricked Shuckle using its fifth turn of Rollout after a Defense Curl on a 0/0 Gentle Lvl 1 Shedinja with -6 def (Critical Hit).

Shuckle used Rollout.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Shedinja lost 2593489950% of its health.
RiddleSWF's Shedinja fainted.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Pffft Grass Knot is nothing to the power of Rollout.

+6 CB 252 Adamant Power Tricked Shuckle using its fifth turn of Rollout after a Defense Curl on a 0/0 Gentle Lvl 1 Shedinja with -6 def (Critical Hit).

Shuckle used Rollout.
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Shedinja lost 2593489950% of its health.
RiddleSWF's Shedinja fainted.

Add in a partner having used Helping Hand.

 

[SOVAman]

Add in a partner having used Helping Hand.

loool it is already too much for me to handle

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Try a Modest Choice Specs Charizard (252 Sp Atk EVs) use Blast Burn on a Paras (0 Sp Def EV's / IV's) under the sun, giving a critical hit. xD

-Terywj

 

[Pink Reaper]

blaziken has slightly higher special attack. Also, I already did that. it was like, 7 million %

 

[Wave⁂]

Flower Gift + Helping Hand?

 

[Pink Reaper]

A +6, Pure Power, Power Swap, adamant Shuckle using Rollout on the 5th Turn after using Defense Curl, with helping hand and Flower Gift and a Maxed out Metronome(10 Turns) against a lvl 1 yanma with -6 Def, a -Def nature and 0/0 in HP/Def and 0 IVs

2020129000.0% - 2376622400.0%

 

[Wave⁂]

Why Yanma?

 

[Circa]

It's the weakest Pokemon with x4 weakness to Rock. Duhhh.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

That's like way over 9000.

Also, Stealth Rock should've been up. XD

-Terywj

 

[Wave⁂]

Yeah, but Yanma has like 100 times more HP than Shedinja.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

So then do a Choice Specs Modest Gengar with full Sp Atk IV's/EV's use Shadow Ball on a min/min Shedinja after Stealth Rock. xD

-Terywj

 

[Circa]

Yeah, but Yanma has like 100 times more HP than Shedinja.

It makes the joke less blatantly obvious. DX

 

[UltiMario]

A +6, Pure Power, Power Swap, adamant Shuckle using Rollout on the 5th Turn after using Defense Curl, with helping hand and Flower Gift and a Maxed out Metronome(10 Turns) against a lvl 1 yanma with -6 Def, a -Def nature and 0/0 in HP/Def and 0 IVs

2020129000.0% - 2376622400.0%

Pfft, not much. That's a 2HKO at best.

 

[Riddle]

I actually did this **** on shoddy though (no doubles). Also Rollout has much more base power than shadow ball.

And you forgot the crit Pink Reaper.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Yeah, but Yanma has like 100 times more HP than Shedinja.

At lvl 1 Yanma has a total of 12 HP I believe. That's 11 more than Shedinja.

I actually did this **** on shoddy though (no doubles). Also Rollout has much more base power than shadow ball.

And you forgot the crit Pink Reaper.

I didn't forget the Crit, I was just lazy.

 

[Riddle]

Ledyba has worse defenses than yanma btw

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Wait what.

Anyways. Worth trying a max Sp Atk Choice Spec'd Deoxys A use Psycho Boost critically on a min Sp Def Croagunk?

-Terywj

 

[Riddle]

unfortunately there is no specially based screech/growl that I know of

 

[Wave⁂]

Amnesia.

Pogeymanz, son.

EDIT: Err, Fake Tears, Metal Sound.

 

[Circa]

Other way around (Amnesia HELPS, and I think they're looking for one that hinders), but there is one either way.

Metal Sound. :3

 

[Wave⁂]

**** edit ninjas.

 

[ss118]

Combee is best to get the highest damage. Shedinja is superior when it comes to percentages, however.

Also, Flash Fire boosted Overheat +6 Specs > any other fire attack. Also, in the sun.

 

[Wave⁂]

Problem with Overheat is that you don't get a Pure Power boost.

 

[verycoolguy]

Eruption? Blast Burn(no)? Typhlosion has Blaze to replace Flash Fire.

 

[ss118]

But Heatran has 130 Spa. And he can Skill Swap Blaze after gaining a Flash Fire boost.

 

[Wave⁂]

But Heatran has 130 Spa. And he can Skill Swap Blaze after gaining a Flash Fire boost.

Oh snap. It might be more powerful than Shuckle, considering Flower Gift and Sun.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Theoretically you could pass Typhlosion Flash Fire to give it a boost, then pass it +6 SpAtk, then pass it adaptability and trick choice specs onto it. From there Eruption would have a base power of 450, against a paras with dry skin, that's 3600 off of a special attack stat of 1566. With a crit that's 7200 off of 1566.

Heatran with Flash Fire, adaptability(better than flash fire), +6 choice specs overheat has a move with 420 power, which is 3360 against Paras. Special attack stat of 1773.

Moltres can mimic Eruption. After everything(same multipliers vs Paras) it would have a 450 base power move off of a 1722 SpAtk stat.

Moltres would be the most powerful hit you could get on Paras. Granted, Metronome > Choice Specs even with only 8 PP. 80% power boost compared to 50% but w/e.

Flower gift only boosts physical attack, so it would do pretty much nothing for Special attacks.

 

[Circa]

Solar Power boosts Special Attack, but hurts your HP. So for Eruption to be optimal the opponent would have to outspeed (or out-prioritize, lolquickclaw) Sunny Day on the same turn you use Eruption.

Totally possible.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Or sun could just already be up?

Also, Flash Fire Boosted, Solar Power Eruption under sun from a +6 Modest Metronome Moltres, crit hit, against a lvl 1 Dry Skin -SpDef natured paras.

47521512-55907664

 

[Terywj [태리]]

The poor thing.

-Terywj

 

[Wave⁂]

Is that a percentage?

 

[Pink Reaper]

No, that's just straight up damage.

 

[Riddle]

so my shuckle still does more.

 

[Terywj [태리]]

Fire-types are better. So thar.

-Terywj