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Goku, the Martial Arts Master monkey around!

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Goku, The Monkey King!

Goku is a rude and often selfish monkey who tries to take over heaven with Gyumaou but was caught and exiled away. A little girl named Chao, finds him and takes care of him for a while and from her, Goku learns the importance of kindness and diligence. However, Goku is found by Oshakasama and is imprisoned. Chao goes on an adventure to find the Gavel of Light to save Goku. Several years later, the world is put under peril by Goku's old ally, Gyumaou and Goku is tasked to defeat Gyumaou and save the world.

What game Goku is from?

Goku is from...

Goku is from a game released on the Famicom called Yūyūki. The game was a part of a series called Famicom Fairytales that also included Shin Onigashima. The game is loosely based of the Chinese story, Journey to the West. The English translation for the game is Brave Brave Spirit.

Playstyle and Moveset:
Ground Speed 6/10: Goku is above average speed on the ground.
Air Speed 7/10: Goku is quite fast in the air.
Size 4/10: Goku is slightly smaller than Mario.
Weight 3/10: Goku is a lighter character that can be launched fairly decently.
Fall Speed 6/10: Goku falls at an above average rate.
Jump Height 6/10: Goku jump height is above average
Traction 3/10: Goku has poor traction and doesn't stop immediately when turning.
Goku's playstyle and moveset is inspired from Shaolin and bo staff techniques as well as using some moves from Sun Wukong in Smite (Goku is based off Sun Wukong in Yuyuki). Goku also uses a kung fu fighting style. I wanted to make Goku fast, agile, and deadly like the techniques I've based him on.

Normal Attacks:
Jab Combo: Goku strikes downward from over his shoulder with the staff. He follows up with a strike from the other end of the staff going diagonally upward. He ends the combo with a horizontal strike from the staff.
Forward Tilt: Goku plants his staff in the ground and swings on it like a monkey, using his legs to attack.
Up Tilt: Goku climbs up his staff and does a spinning kick while spinning around the staff.
Down Tilt: Goku pokes his staff near the opponents feet.
Dash Attack: Goku jumps in the air and performs a butterfly kick.


Smash Attacks:
Forward: Goku swings his staff from overhead, downward while leaping forward a small bit.
Up: Goku swings his staff over his head, head tilted sideways. He swings while gripping the bottom of the staff so the entire length of the staff swings overhead.
Down: Goku spins in a circle while swinging his staff outward.

Grabs:
Goku grabs with one hand and puts his opponents in a side headlock.
Pummel: Goku noogies them.
Forward: Goku shoves his staff into the opponent and it extends, then he lifts them over his head and throws them forward.
Backward: Goku turns them around, slaps the opponent's neck and then slams his staff into their back.
Up: Goku throws them up, and does a handstand kick so the opponent's back lands on his feet and are sent flying.
Down: Goku places them on the ground and performs an axe kick, where he kicks vertically upwards near his head then slams his heel into the opponent on the ground.

Aerials:
NAir: Goku does a split kick in midair.
FAir: Goku does a kick in vertically in front of him.
BAir: Goku swings his staff behind him while the staff is extending.
UAir: Goku turns upside down and sticks his legs out like helicopter blades and spins.
DAir: Goku uses his staff as a pogo stick and he shoots downward (not as fast as Link's down air). If it sweetspots right at the beginning of the move, it will spike the opponent downward.

Specials:
Neutral: Decoy: Goku creates a decoy of himself that can be physically hit and even does Goku's idle animations. The real Goku is invisible and can move around but not attack. The decoy lasts about 5 seconds and there is a 10 second charge up time for Goku to use the ability again. If the decoy has taken 25% damage, it will explode and inflict a small amount of damage on players around it. Goku can be hit while invisible.

Side: Bo Twirl: Goku twirls his staff in front of him really fast, fast enough to deflect projectiles. If the opponent gets close to him while doing this move, the attack hits the opponent multiple times. (This move is like :pit:'s Side B in Brawl but it doesn't propel you forward as far).

Up: Flying Nimbus Strike: Goku summons his magical cloud and swings his staff from side to side wildly. If you hold the button when using the move, Goku will ascend higher, if you let go, Goku will free fall. (Kind of like :snake:'s up B just that it actually damages opponents).

Down: Transformation: Goku transforms into one of his three friends. Goku will transform into his friends for 8 seconds. He can cancel out of the transformation by pressing another attack other than the down B.
Sanzo (the monk): If he turns into Sanzo, Goku rides on Sanzo's scooter in a straight line forward. If down B is held Goku goes farther on the scooter.
Hakkai (the pig): If Goku turns into Hakkai, he will be invincible for the time being. Since Hakkai can see the future with his clairvoyance, Goku will dodge all attacks by opponents.
Gojo (the kappa): If Goku turns into Gojo, Goku can stun opponents with his down B attack. The stun lasts 3 seconds.

Final Smash:
Gavel of Light: Goku summons the Gavel of Light and holds it up to the heavens. Three beams of light rain down onto the stage and opponents are launched if they touch the beams.

Taunts:
Side: Goku turns around and waves his butt toward the direction you inputted.
Up: Goku crawls to the top of his staff and does a one handed handstand on the top of it.
Down: Goku twirls his staff around and throws it in the air before catching it.

Entrance:
Goku enters the stage riding on his cloud. He gets off and the cloud flies away.

Victory Poses:
Goku twirls his staff around his body and ends it this pose.


Goku climbs on the side of his staff and looks around.


Goku does some kung fu moves while Chao is watching and hurts himself. Chao then runs up to help him.


Music
Goku from Yuyuki stays pretty true to Sun Wukong. Goku would be a vastly unique addition to the Smash roster, using a mixture of his staff and kung fu.

He would also be a new "Retro Character" for the roster. People like retro. Goku met Kirby in Kirby's Dream Land 3 so Goku's potential inclusion would be a reunion.






Amazing artwork by @ZestyÑ and someone else for the first artwork.

Shameless copy and paste of @POKEMANSPIKA thread.
https://smashboards.com/threads/goku-the-monkey-martial-arts-master-for-smash-dlc.408424/
The Warriors of the West:
 
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Same, an arguably better and more unique idea than the Goku everyone really wants. :troll:
 
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Now this is the Goku I want in Smash. I prefer Dragon Ball's Goku in a Jump All Stars game. Count me in for the Yuyuki Goku.
 

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Goku is still the bes. If Bandai-Namco is still helping to produce, I wouldn't mind seeing Goku have some SoulCalibur Kilik/Xiba elements since they're all staff users and based around the same JttW character.
 
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ooh! an support thread for an obscure nintendo character! SUPPORT!
 
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I am all for Goku because a staff fighter would be something new and unique in Smash.

Plus, another playable monkey who kicks ***.
 

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I've made a Smash discord server for anyone that loves retro Nintendo characters if you are interested.

All Goku fans are welcome, yes. Goku has is own channel where you can talk about his potential as a fighter or talk about his game Yuyuki.

https://discord.gg/tY4HaBB
 
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I’ve always wanted to play Yuyuki, so him being in would probably be the next best thing. Also, imagine how awesome it would be to troll people that Goku is in Smash. The internet would probably crash.
 

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Specials:

Up: Flying Nimbus Strike: Goku summons his magical cloud and swings his staff from side to side wildly. If you hold the button when using the move, Goku will ascend higher, if you let go, Goku will free fall. (Kind of like :snake:'s up B just that it actually damages opponents).
Hang on, this non-DBZ monkey has a Flying Nimbus? That would just cause even more brand confusion.
 

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Hang on, this non-DBZ monkey has a Flying Nimbus? That would just cause even more brand confusion.
Both Flying Nimbii stem from the source material/inspiration for both Yuyuki and Dragon Ball, the classic Chinese novel Journey to the West. Those similarities and others (the staff, the whole monkey/tail gig, etc) are unavoidable.
 

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This.

At least this guy is a Nintendo character.

Just that him being Japan-onlyy get in his way.
I would like to add that for the Yuyuki Goku, Nintendo would be one if not the only one to approach for Yuyuki Goku.

For Dragon Ball's Goku, you would have to go through Akira Toriyama and his Bird Studios, Shueisha (and possibly the parent companies), Fuji TV and Toei Animation (Possibly for animation reasons), and Bandai Namco (for game rights)

It would be overall cheaper to go with Yuyuki's Goku than the Dragon Ball's Goku.
 
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The only Goku I'd ever be fine with in Smash.

I'd prefer the Goku from Dragon Ball than someone else using his name.
Hang on, this non-DBZ monkey has a Flying Nimbus? That would just cause even more brand confusion.
You realize Dragon Ball is based off of the same thing, Sun Wukong from Journey to the West, right? It's not just his name.

It's a very well known story. Similar to how Disney does not own most of the stories their animated movies are based off of.
 
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What else from Dragon Ball Z came from Journey to the West? Did Journey to the West have space aliens? Did someone power up and turned golden? Does Journey to the West have Super Saiyans? We all know Sonic turns into a Super Saiyan hedgehog for his Final Smash. Is Sonic also based on Journey to the West?
 

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What else from Dragon Ball Z came from Journey to the West? Did Journey to the West have space aliens? Did someone power up and turned golden? Does Journey to the West have Super Saiyans? We all know Sonic turns into a Super Saiyan hedgehog for his Final Smash. Is Sonic also based on Journey to the West?
If anything, Sonic turning Super Sonic and that not being seen as confusing only helps this Goku’s chances.

Also, Dragon Ball (notice the lack of a Z) was based on Journey to the West. It was the Kid Goku part of the manga, so by the time they got cosmic, that was original material.
 
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If anything, Sonic turning Super Sonic and that not being seen as confusing only helps this Goku’s chances.

Also, Dragon Ball (notice the lack of a Z) was based on Journey to the West. It was the Kid Goku part of the manga, so by the time they got cosmic, that was original material.
Except that Sonic is a very popular character who isn't overshadowed by DBZ. When people are requesting the Dragon Ball Z character but get this obscure character instead, there would be a lot of riots. Also, Toei Animation owns the trademark to Goku, meaning that if Nintendo were to make an amiibo of this guy, they would have to talk to the owners of Dragon Ball and they would be more likely to give Nintendo the Dragon Ball Z character for Smash than to let them use the trademark for an unknown character that could be easily mistaken for theirs.
 

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Except that Sonic is a very popular character who isn't overshadowed by DBZ. When people are requesting the Dragon Ball Z character but get this obscure character instead, there would be a lot of riots. Also, Toei Animation owns the trademark to Goku, meaning that if Nintendo were to make an amiibo of this guy, they would have to talk to the owners of Dragon Ball and they would be more likely to give Nintendo the Dragon Ball Z character for Smash than to let them use the trademark for an unknown character that could be easily mistaken for theirs.
Nintendo owns the rights for this Goku, and any of the common elements between them (Flying Nimbus, staff, monkey tail) can’t pose any legal issues since they spawn from a common source, and one that is in the public domain.

Besides, the rights to Goku (or more accurately, his image and appearance) are much more complicated than just being at Toei’s disposition. Nintendo would have to bargain with four parties to get the rights to use Dragon Ball’s Goku, against zero for this Goku.
 

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Nintendo may own the copyrights, but Toei has the merchandising rights to the name. Nintendo can't label a toy Goku without alerting Toei's lawyers, meaning they would have a Shazam/Captain Marvel-type situation with the amiibo. People have already confused some other Nintendo characters with their game titles. Link/Zelda, Samus/Metroid, Pit/Kid Icarus. I think Nintendo would want to name their amiibo properly if the newcomers get their own amiibo. And to name that amiibo correctly, they need permission to use the Goku brand. But if Smash 5 has no amiibo, this guy could be a secret character with the name Goku. But if they can't get the rights to the DBZ Goku or the trademark to "Goku", it's best not to use any Goku at all. I doubt Nintendo would go through that effort just to make DBZ fanboys mad. This Goku has only made one appearance in a Japan-only game and a cameo in Kirby's Dream Land 3 while the Dragon Ball series made 43 games on Nintendo systems plus some more games on other consoles.
 

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Nintendo may own the copyrights, but Toei has the merchandising rights to the name. Nintendo can't label a toy Goku without alerting Toei's lawyers, meaning they would have a Shazam/Captain Marvel-type situation with the amiibo. People have already confused some other Nintendo characters with their game titles. Link/Zelda, Samus/Metroid, Pit/Kid Icarus. I think Nintendo would want to name their amiibo properly if the newcomers get their own amiibo. And to name that amiibo correctly, they need permission to use the Goku brand. But if Smash 5 has no amiibo, this guy could be a secret character with the name Goku. But if they can't get the rights to the DBZ Goku or the trademark to "Goku", it's best not to use any Goku at all. I doubt Nintendo would go through that effort just to make DBZ fanboys mad. This Goku has only made one appearance in a Japan-only game and a cameo in Kirby's Dream Land 3 while the Dragon Ball series made 43 games on Nintendo systems plus some more games on other consoles.
Ice climbers and duck hunt only Have one game and the character from yuyuki Is a retro character Too.

And the saiyuki merchandise exist.



And Some other merchandise from other series.

I Don't see the problem.
 

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Nintendo may own the copyrights, but Toei has the merchandising rights to the name. Nintendo can't label a toy Goku without alerting Toei's lawyers, meaning they would have a Shazam/Captain Marvel-type situation with the amiibo. People have already confused some other Nintendo characters with their game titles. Link/Zelda, Samus/Metroid, Pit/Kid Icarus. I think Nintendo would want to name their amiibo properly if the newcomers get their own amiibo. And to name that amiibo correctly, they need permission to use the Goku brand. But if Smash 5 has no amiibo, this guy could be a secret character with the name Goku. But if they can't get the rights to the DBZ Goku or the trademark to "Goku", it's best not to use any Goku at all. I doubt Nintendo would go through that effort just to make DBZ fanboys mad. This Goku has only made one appearance in a Japan-only game and a cameo in Kirby's Dream Land 3 while the Dragon Ball series made 43 games on Nintendo systems plus some more games on other consoles.
Where’d you get the idea of Toei owning the advertising rights to the name Goku (rather than the character)? That’s the first time I’ve heard of it. If you got any link to a source explaining that, it’d be really appreciated.

Still, even with that, it still would be much easier (and cheaper) for Nintendo to ask Toei to use one word than to ask various independent parties for permission to use DBZ’s Goku.

And believe you me, if Nintendo could troll all the people that are still expecting Dragon Ball in Smash, I wouldn’t mind in the slightest.
 

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When you search "Goku" on the TESS, the file with the registration number 2114595 that Toei owns has the description of "the Japanese pronunciation of the name of a hero of ancient Chinese legend" which could say the same for Yuyuki's Goku. All kinds of toys are included in the services, which means they can't get an amiibo called Goku without going through Toei. And I highly doubt Toei would let them use the name for something that just looks like a ripoff within a popular All-Star crossover game. Toei would want more money from Smash and have them promote Dragon Ball by putting their famous Super Saiyan in Smash as a playable fighter and having other characters like Vegeta, Piccolo, Majin Buu, Gohan, Bulma, Chi-Chi, Frieza and Videl as trophies. Vegeta could be a great Assist Trophy. Sorry, but Dragon Ball Goku has a much bigger chance of making it than Yuyuki Goku. And besides, being an anime character shouldn't hinder his chances of being in Smash when you look at how overrepresented the Pokémon series is. Yes, I know the games Pokémon Red and Green came first, but there are some Pokémon content in Smash that came from the anime. Pokémon are saying their names. Oh and look at Lucario, who's actually based on the one from the eighth movie instead of a generic Lucario you catch in the games. And since Lucario is one of those Pokémon who debuted in the anime earlier than the games, the "must start in video games" rule is completely broken. Also, Sakurai wanted to put James Bond in Melee. The only reason he was cut was because the producers of the James Bond movies at MGM and the actor Pierce Brosnan couldn't agree to the deal. But the idea of Sakurai ever wanting James Bond in Melee just raises the probability of 4th-party characters even more. And with all of these Indie developers begging Nintendo to put their characters in Smash, Bandai Namco who holds the Dragon Ball license worked on Smash 4, Sakurai and Toriyama both living in Japan, Dragon Ball's Goku doesn't seem that dumb of an idea.
 

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When you search "Goku" on the TESS, the file with the registration number 2114595 that Toei owns has the description of "the Japanese pronunciation of the name of a hero of ancient Chinese legend" which could say the same for Yuyuki's Goku. All kinds of toys are included in the services, which means they can't get an amiibo called Goku without going through Toei. And I highly doubt Toei would let them use the name for something that just looks like a ripoff within a popular All-Star crossover game. Toei would want more money from Smash and have them promote Dragon Ball by putting their famous Super Saiyan in Smash as a playable fighter and having other characters like Vegeta, Piccolo, Majin Buu, Gohan, Bulma, Chi-Chi, Frieza and Videl as trophies. Vegeta could be a great Assist Trophy. Sorry, but Dragon Ball Goku has a much bigger chance of making it than Yuyuki Goku. And besides, being an anime character shouldn't hinder his chances of being in Smash when you look at how overrepresented the Pokémon series is. Yes, I know the games Pokémon Red and Green came first, but there are some Pokémon content in Smash that came from the anime. Pokémon are saying their names. Oh and look at Lucario, who's actually based on the one from the eighth movie instead of a generic Lucario you catch in the games. And since Lucario is one of those Pokémon who debuted in the anime earlier than the games, the "must start in video games" rule is completely broken. Also, Sakurai wanted to put James Bond in Melee. The only reason he was cut was because the producers of the James Bond movies at MGM and the actor Pierce Brosnan couldn't agree to the deal. But the idea of Sakurai ever wanting James Bond in Melee just raises the probability of 4th-party characters even more. And with all of these Indie developers begging Nintendo to put their characters in Smash, Bandai Namco who holds the Dragon Ball license worked on Smash 4, Sakurai and Toriyama both living in Japan, Dragon Ball's Goku doesn't seem that dumb of an idea.
We, or at least I, don't know what goes on in the heads of Sakurai and/or the others in development of Super Smash Bros. To a respectable degree, we need to give the developers some space of creativity to produce a product like a book, movie, video game, etc. The only way we'd know of ideas behind a product's development is the developer(s) of said media product speaking about it. These statements from the developers may be in or against the favor of some concepts such as a guest character coming in.

The idea of Yuyuki's Goku being a ripoff is a bit condescending, considering there was more than just Dragon Ball doing retellings and parodies of Journey to the West, even before Dragon Ball did that. Plus, I'm pretty sure there's some level of respect that companies would have if Sakurai and the other Smash devs got a license to use the name "Goku" from Toei if used for the Yuyuki one. If not, Sakurai would choose not to deal with Toei. Besides, the Smash devs could go with the name "Sun Wukong" if they wanted to, if that isn't trademarked.

Yeah, Dragon Ball took off internationally and gained Z, GT, and Super plus many other merchandise underneath the "Dragon Ball" franchise as it got popular. But, Ice Climbers weren't super popular before Smash and those guys were in Melee and Brawl. There's more to a potential Smash character than popularity alone. There's feasibility, licensing limitations both related and not related to budgeting, budgeting itself, time constraints, self imposed limitations, and the interest from fans, the developers themselves, and even some people not involved in the project.

James Bond was indeed considered. I don't know how far, but there's more than just Pierce Brosnan's likeness and MGM to deal with. Realistic guns were a no go for Sakurai and he's likely quickly dismissed for more grounds than those I mentioned.

Lucario might've been similar to Greninja when Greninja was selected for Smash for Wii U/3DS. Lucario was probably in the development period in Diamond and Pearl when the Sakurai selected him and the movie just happened to release first, thus the loop-hole.

I'd personally welcome the obscure things from Nintendo's offerings into Smash. I think it would keep people on their toes and makes the potential of exploring the offerings worth it. To me, just having all popular stuff in Smash can get things a little stale and a bit on the predictable side.
 

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Ice Climbers may have been obscure, but at least they didn't remind people of an overrated character. The name Goku would instantly make people think of the Dragon Ball Z character. And since there are people who legitimately want Goku from Dragon Ball, a lot of people would really hate this Yuyuki character.
 

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Ice Climbers may have been obscure, but at least they didn't remind people of an overrated character. The name Goku would instantly make people think of the Dragon Ball Z character. And since there are people who legitimately want Goku from Dragon Ball, a lot of people would really hate this Yuyuki character.
It's all risks in the matter of character choices in regards to what people genuinely want and the same goes for the developers. Some people would give Yuyuki Goku a chance, some won't. The devs in control will bare decisions they make, whether the results are good or bad. It wouldn't be the first time a hatedom would come to a character in Smash and I doubt it would be the last.
 
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True. A lot of characters in Super Smash Bros have hatedoms. And both Gokus would have massive hatedoms when one is picked over the other. Yuyuki Goku would be a Replacement Scrappy of DBZ Goku while DBZ Goku would give people similar reactions to when Cloud was announced and give people the notion that literally anything could be in Smash.
 
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