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Geno the reason for a Brawl-less Christmas?

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Dogenzaka

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I know smrpglegacy made a joke about this with Landmaster, but there's the chance the rest of their post was serious.

Because the rest of the internet is.

http://gonintendo.com/?p=34648
http://dpad.gotfrag.com/wii/story/41420/

"Awhile back, Sakurai asked Japan what characters they wanted to see in Brawl. According to Dpad, the top 10 fan picks made it into Brawl…minus Geno. Furthermore, they say Geno sat atop the list. The article also takes the final roster screenshot to push the rumor that Square-Enix was the reason Brawl was delayed.

They said that Geno was indeed in the game, but Square-Enix and Nintendo couldn’t work out the final deal. That forced the delay, the removal of the character, and the odd placement of the random character box. "

If this is true, this is how I think it might have played out:


Nintendo wouldn't add a Geno model without Square-Enix's consent.
And Square-Enix couldn't ask to take it out in mid-development without Nintendo suing.

However, it is possible that they were negotiating the rights of the character, and had it planned to where he could be in and programmed by November, but then the two companies couldn't reach an agreement and the deal was off. Nintendo's plans for Geno had now been immediately shaken, and they had to do some adjustments to have him clean and out of the game as if he had never been in there. Nintendo speaks about Brawl at their conference in Nintendo, because they need to announce to the world the delay of their game. They were so sure it was going to be out in December because they had everything ready, but then this news caused them to adjust the game considerably at short notice. That explains the delay. At the conference, Nintendo announces to the world the delay, with deep apologies, but tells us they DID manage to keep Sonic, and the world goes crazy.

At the launch of SSBB, Geno is mysteriously missing, despite he was the only in the top 10 list who wasn't included in Brawl (I might be mistaken there though). Instead of four rows of 9 characters...it was 3 rows of 9 and 1 row of 8 with a random character box oddly placed at the side to fill up the space where Geno would have filled up.

Seems like a likely story.

Downloadable characters though, that's highly unlikely. Usually, characters use a programming that would be impossible to be added to the game unless the game and characters were programmed in a modular code that allowed characters to be "installed". We already have downloadable content through custom stages, so it IS possible he implemented this kind of coding.

Our best chances to ever seeing Geno in Brawl would be:
- Nintendo re-releasing the game
- Nintendo releasing a disc/bonus for adding Geno.
- Nintendo announcing on the Dojo a feature for downloadable characters (like stages) in Brawl. That would honestly make this the greatest game ever.

If this is true, it all makes sense now.

I still don't forgive Sakurai for teh cloans.
 

Dogenzaka

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We'll Have to see Geno would be nice but what we got now isnt as bad as people think
Well it's definitely not as good as we could have gotten with some thought and effort.

Hell Toon Link isn't even cel-shaded >:
 

Arteen

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Sakurai insisted that Geno use the Landmaster but Squeenix wouldn't play ball. That's why the game got delayed.
 

Eternalfire

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How is the random box in an odd place? Where else would it go? In the middle? If you are wondering why they have the box at all, then it is because the character wouldn't be known until after the match started.

In closing, I think this is a fake story.
 

Dogenzaka

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How is the random box in an odd place? Where else would it go? In the middle? If you are wondering why they have the box at all, then it is because the character wouldn't be known until after the match started.
Melee didn't have a random box take up an icon-space.
36 characters would have been an even 4 rows of 9 characters. That, and Geno would have been under Sonic and Snake, the other third-party characters, in that space.
35 characters leaves an incomplete row of 8 icons, therefore it looks suspicious. The previous game didn't have a random box take up an icon space, so that's why it's odd.
 

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If Geno doesn't appear in any shape or form, this could be true.
 

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While I don't know how much I want to believe this, I wouldn't be surprised considering Square-Enix's track record with Nintendo.
 

Eternalfire

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Melee didn't have a random box take up an icon-space.
36 characters would have been an even 4 rows of 9 characters. That, and Geno would have been under Sonic and Snake, the other third-party characters, in that space.
35 characters leaves an incomplete row of 8 icons, therefore it looks suspicious. The previous game didn't have a random box take up an icon space, so that's why it's odd.
Again, it's so the player doesn't know what character he is using until the match starts. In melee, it just picks a random character box and sets the player's button down. It would be impossible to not know your character using that system. If the random character had it's own box like it does in Brawl, you can choose a random character without knowing what character you had chosen.
 

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Interesting....

adding Geno would bring the count to 36....

and if you count Sheik, Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur....

We come out to 400 characters.

Seems pretty legit.
 

TheMastermind

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People stop makeing these topics!!!!!
Ive know for a while from an inside source that geno wasnt in the game!!

He was only put onto the poll to see if he could be considered for an assist trophy.
But since he was 3rd party, Nintendo would have to pay for him so they decided to wasnt worth the money. Geno was NEVER even going to be considered as the final 3rd party.
 

RetroRhythm

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Interesting....

adding Geno would bring the count to 36....

and if you count Sheik, Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur....

We come out to 400 characters.

Seems pretty legit.
XD

YOU HAVE NO IDEA....HOW HARD I AM LAUGHING! XD

THIS WILL BE SIGGED.
 

SPP Kirby

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People stop makeing these topics!!!!!
Ive know for a while from an inside source that geno wasnt in the game!!

He was only put onto the poll to see if he could be considered for an assist trophy.
But since he was 3rd party, Nintendo would have to pay for him so they decided to wasnt worth the money. Geno was NEVER even going to be considered as the final 3rd party.
Funnily enough, I think your statements are even more unbelievable than the Geno rumor.

First of all, skimming through your posts, you seem to "predict" Megaman in the official prediction thread, yet surely if you had inside information you'd have known that Megaman wouldn't be making the final cut.

Also, I hate to say it but it would seem like a waste of time to make a third party character an AT, unless of course they included another Square character as a playable character, and Geno was just there to tag along.

So to sum up my post, I doubt you have inside information. Second of all, there are so many things wrong with this rumor that I don't even know where to begin, but as someone else has pointed out, listing IMDB as a source is a big smackdown to credibility.

Interesting....

adding Geno would bring the count to 36....

and if you count Sheik, Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur....

We come out to 400 characters.

Seems pretty legit.
Best post ever XD
 

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Since I doubt I'd ever hear the real reason out of any Nintendo rep's mouth, I'm willing to accept this as a somewhat possible scenario, if only a rumor. 36 characters with 40 movesets would have been a pretty keen number. D:
 

TheMastermind

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Funnily enough, I think your statements are even more
First of all, skimming through your posts, you seem to "predict" Megaman in the official prediction thread, yet surely if you had inside information you'd have known that Megaman wouldn't be making the final cut.
I wasnt a profit that knew everthing. I just found out specific information.
Like no animal crosser and No geno and no ridley )=. which I really wanted.

Edit: I really only wanted ridely not Geno or animal crosser.
 

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I heard that the Geno rumor is possibly false given the website that "dug it up". GoNintendo is simply repeating their rumor.

Not sure if I believe it. Sounds credible due to SE track record, but then again, if its a lie then they probably intentionally played on the SE/Nintendo tension.
 

veil222

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Geno is not in in any way. The disk has been ripped, and I've watch someone on live feed finish unlocking all characters even recieving the message "You have unlocked all the characters, now the real brawl begins" loosely translated. Stop this stupid crap, no one else is in.
 

Dogenzaka

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Geno is not in in any way. The disk has been ripped, and I've watch someone on live feed finish unlocking all characters even recieving the message "You have unlocked all the characters, now the real brawl begins" loosely translated. Stop this stupid crap, no one else is in.
If you weren't so illiterate you might read the article and realize that we're not saying Geno is in the game, genius.
 

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WHY would Nintendo add Geno before getting rights to him from Square? Doesn't make sense people. Also, it doesn't take 2 months to replace a character with a random box. Think a little, please.
 

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WHY would Nintendo add Geno before getting rights to him from Square? Doesn't make sense people. Also, it doesn't take 2 months to replace a character with a random box. Think a little, please.
How about tweaking the SSE so Geno is cut out? That sounds like two months of work to me.
 

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...It's like people don't search AT ALL.

This is the FOURTH topic about this in this room in the past 24 hours.
 
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