Hi everybody. Over the past weekend I played in a local tournament and in GF this guy counterpicked my peach with a ganondorf and I got absolutely smashed. Contsant fairs and dairs. Can anyone give me some tips on how to work this matchup a little better?
Be as close to ganon as possible at all times, if he's in his shield STAY ON IT.
Ganondorfs options out of shield include: A very slow shield grab, up air which usually isn't fast enough, the fastest thing he can do is up out of shield but if you are throwing out hitboxes that won't do anything either, if a ganondorf is pressured he can do nothing and he will be forced to roll. He has a very good roll but it becomes predictable. (This is why the falco match up is so challenging for Ganon, once you're shielding you are done.)
Keep applying pressure. Ganon has really ****ty escape options, so if you stay on him you're pretty good.
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
What he said
I team with a Ganon player and sometimes vs him in Singles, so I have a fair amount of knowledge but
Turnips. Pull them. Find a safe spot and pull and toss. If you're being hit by Fairs and Dairs, give yourself more space. Spacing is everything in this matchup.
Also, don't even try to challenge a Bair. Don't.
Turnips have to be used carefully in this match up, I'm very confident in my ability to catch them and use them. If a ganondorf is doing empty short hops after you've pulled a turnip he wants you to throw it at him. If you pull a turnip close to Ganondorf you're asking to be smacked (I guess that's true about every match up)
Spacing really is everything, I recently lost to Ambix in one of the hypest sets I've played in a long time (game 3) It's recorded but not uploaded yet. I won on battlefield game 1 ? He won on FD then I took him to dreamland. Let me begin by explaining taking peach to dreamland was a big mistake, I generally play that match up to be outside of peaches hitboxes as... a character peach really is just a box of pain. I needed to be able to box him in, I made the mistake of giving him too much room. I don't know if Ambix posts on the forums but he can tell you how he felt out our set from his point of view.
Keep up the pressure with the turnips and spacing! And from personal experience, try not to trade, like at all.
Ganondorf wants trades period with every match up, Ganon players aim for trades.
I actually think ganon is one of peaches easiest matchups.
Just remember that it is very hard to approach him because of his insane range on that fair.
so what you should do is use turnips to approach him. what I do is do a SH turnip throw in. Then he tries to dodge it with jumps and stuff. But by that time you are already inside his circle and you get a free nair. from there combo him to death.
Basically, what you said. Put ganondorf in a situation where he has to react to it then punish accordingly.
Here is a match of mine vs. Shroudedone last weekend, the same event I lost to Ambix. When the set with Ambix eventually finds it's way online it was a hell of a game no johns.