Roy's F-smash may not be weak when sweetspotted but its nigh impossible to get that in there on any decent ganon that knows how to space, plus hate to break it to you, but the f-tilt can come out faster then the f-smash so if the ganon player has good reflexes he shouldn't have to worry about the move as much as you make it seem that its strong.
When getting comboed you can't just do moves. XD
So, you need not worry about getting f-tilted, as they'd be stunned from the combo. No idiot just spams fsmash hoping to hit, and if you took it that way, then you suck LOLZ.
Wrong again, most of those combos can be DI'd out of like you said yourself and literally your fair dair nair combos would not work because Roy, although having a good shffl game, just doesn't combo. Some of the best Roy players in the world agree that roy has literally like one or two set combo's and even those can be avoided and most of his little one or two hit combo's start with D-tilt.
Then they wouldn't be combos if they were DIed out of, idiot. I'm saying, in the instances that they didn't DI/DIed wrong. Saying Roy doesn't combo is like saying Fox doesn't combo (granted, Fox combos MORE than Roy, but Roy still can and does combo). You saying "Most of those combos can be DI'd out of", is completely an invalid argument, because then you could say that about every combo in the entire game. And I agree that Roy has only two sets of combos, when I listed those combos, note they all contained the few same moves.
Sure Reverse UpB can kill a jiggly in one hit but it still doesn't mean that Roy would be **** on jigglypuff. Roy just flat out isn't a good character and you shouldn't have trouble against him as ganon, you outrange him and none of his attacks should pose a threat.. Granted if your facing Neo your in trouble but yea. Oh and D-smash is one of his worst moves and kills at 70 percent and above 100 percent on DL64, so although strong, its too laggy to be used in anything but a situational desperation kill really.
I never said that having that move would make Roy > Jiggly. I said it because bluedeath said, and I quote "only thing strong of roy's is fsmash". That's just simply ******** (as is he). I also agree 100% Roy is not a good character (though neither is Ganon
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). I also agree you should not be having trouble against (most) Roys as Ganondorf, and of course you outrange and out prioritize Roy as Ganon. Anybody who knows ANYTHING about SSBM would know this.
Again, I never said dsmash was a good attack, I said it was STRONG. In fact, the only situation I've ever seen it used was in a desperation kill, which is it's purpose.
Thanks kevin..just said everything I was about to say.
Actually, you weren't going to say any of that, as you're an idiot.
Toecutter, stop trying to pick apart everything I say, you just make yourself look dumb.
LOL, you think I look dumb? You know nothing about Smash.
You are indeed making yourself look dumb.
Getting kind of repetitive. I provide facts and logic, and you provide nothing. Stop using this "insult" as a crutch.