ftilt vs nair edgeguard

[knightpraetor]

wouldn't it be best to just nair if you think they are going to phantasm high/at you? because they can aim it so that it will hit higher than your ftilt...and since nair hangs it should keep the lower parts of your body covered as well.

And after you L-cancel you can dsmash in case they missed the sweetspot on the ledge but it's probably too late

 

[Vro]

ftilt is just generally safer. it has little lag, so if you do miss, you can follow up with a grab since their forward b entails a lot of landing lag compared to your grab. if you miss your nair, you need to l-cancel and then proceed to go after the enemy behind you.

ftilt also provides combo ability against space animals. nair can't do much except as you said, set up another edgeguard, which may fail due to DI/teching.

edit: i thought you said utilt. everything i said applies to utilt. some applies to ftilit, but the reason they use ftilt over nair is because it has more knockback.

 

[knightpraetor]

ftilt doesn't seem that safe to me..you have to angle it if they aim for your head or not angle it if they go for your body..and you don't have that much time to react when they do go...so having to choose between those two seems far more risky

 

[technomancer]

If they're doing it on to the stage, the best idea seems to be to just run to the end of the phantasm/illusion and dsmash them back off.

 

[knightpraetor]

usually the shield stun slows you down too much..that's what i mean though..when they aim high on your body attempting to get over your ftilt with too little time to react and fsmash..so since nair covers all of that area it ought to be better iwould think.

 

[Hylian]

Why don't you just bair? XD.

 

[lain]

utilt is too good imo.

also, charging usmash is hotness as well, since it appears to hit a little below the ledge. : /

 

[knightpraetor]

hey good call hylian..now that i think about it i do backair instead of nair..that way i can make them wary of a ledgehog as well