I come; with crazy theories. These however, are the king of insane. So much so that their credibility is questionable(even from myself). While looking though the site, I noticed something, and here I will share with you.
Looking thought the musicians, I noticed something. Each song is done by two people, the Composition Supervisor and the Arrangement Supervisor. The Composition Supervisor is the one who originally made the music. The Arrangement Supervisor is the person who is arranging the new tune. So, the Composition is the man who made the music and overlooks the arrangement who is making the song for the game.
The point? Using this we may be able to tell which franchise will be in Brawl. An example: let's look at Yohsi's Story: Ending. The Composition Supervisor is Kazumi Totaka. If you knew anything about Nintendo you'd know he did the music for a few Yoshi game, Luigi's Mansion, Animal Crossing and is the voice of Yoshi. The Arrangement Supervisor is Masafumi Takada. With the exception of this Arrangement, he has never worked on a Nintendo game. So we know that Totake is working on overseeing the project.
So, now we know that some composers are their soley to oversee the arrangement. That means we can look at the Musicians page to see who is going to be a Composition Supervisor. From looking at it, as well as a smig of research we can tell a few of the franchises.
So far we have: Punch-Out, Pikmin, and Animal Crossing. Not much huh? Well, forgive me as the trying to track down specific franchises is a bit harder, and this does not include Japanese only games as info on them is much harder to find. In fact, Nazo no Murasamejou, which is somewhat likely, is almost impossible to find info one(namely the development team). Another Game, Mole Mania, had no Music Composition. Just sound. I do know that Drill Dozer does not appear. Chibi-Robo was also a no show. Custom Robo is also hard to find stuff, but also it's likely to track as the composers have changed between games.
EDIT:Some news. Nazo no Murasamejou was done by Koji Kondo. So, for you Takamaru supporters, here's hope.
EDIT2:Look like Tomoko Sasaki has worked on Sonic. Thanks to Starmanclock, but I still need to find a source(just to make sure)
Now I want to mention Golden Sun specially as it is unique. It's music composer(Motoi Sakuraba) is on the list. But a few things. First, he has done ALOT. Game like Star Ocean and Tales of Desteny come to mind. He seems to work with Camelot a good amount though as he did work on Mario Tennis and Golf as well as Golden Sun. He may be on the staff as Arrangement though as he arranged the original Melee theme. I wouldn't rule him out yet.
Well, what about the Ice Climbers. Will they return? Maybe not. I did not see the Akito Nakatsuka, the composer, on that list. However, he is a weird one. He is credited in Melee. But, Hirokazu Ando who is credited for the Melee theme isn't on there either. But, since he is on the same page he may not have been added. We'll have to see as I wouldn't doubt some composers aren't on their yet but will appear in the credits. It's possible he wouldn't be involved with this at all, and that someone else will oversee the composing.
Now, I will move to the symbols. You all know their are 18 right. That is 17 possible franchises. Pit's is 18. Now, I have something else to tell you
I think Sakurai may have added all the beginning franchises. So, I'm saying that it's possible there are 17 franchises from the start(but don't quote me on this). As that is a bit farfetched it's possible after Pit you have Metal Gear and other 3rd party franchises. However, it still seems strange. If a franchise like Game & Watch was in there it would have been after Pits. But, for now, we'll consider Pit's franchise the last before hidden.
Now lets look at which franchises we have. I assume Marth will be available from the start(or atleast the Fire Emblem franchise). And if no one is cut(no franchises at least) we have about 12(Mario, DK, Zelda, Metroid, Yoshi, Kirby, Starfox, Pokemon, F-Zero, Earthbound, Fire Emblem, Ice Climbers) plus the two new ones(Kid Icuras, Wario) we have 14. And 18 - 14 = 4. So, that means 4 franchises are missing. If we did say Kid Icuras is the last Nintendo symbol it would be 3(including Game&Watch).
Now, you might think that there are only 18. No, that isn't true. So, why look it this way. This is to give us an idea of how many franchises Brawl will have, thus, potential characters. If given an estimate I'd say there could be 21. Why. I assum that Sbake's is not included in the first 18. This is becuase of orginization. The updates may be random, but as you maay know, doing something as making image apon image, orginization helps. So, we can assum he has two apporches to organizing it. Either he has all of the Nintendo franchises then adds the 3rd party. This makes 21 if Pit is the last one(and if that's the case I wouldn't doubt it). The other is these are characters in the game from power on.
Now, Devastlian brought this to my anention.
http://multiverseworks.com/smashicon.php
With this, I made a pretty interesting inference. Looking thought it, I tried to find a pattern. At first glance, there is no order to it. Why is Starfox before Mario, and that weird gap betweem 16 and 18, let alone that large one between 11 and 16. Well, beleive it or not, there is a pattern to it.
Let's look at numbers 1-11 first. Notice something. Well, we can see that 2 and 7 are both missing. Well, if you haven't noticed it yet, these are all the franchises that were in Super Smash Bros for the N64. Now, there are only two franchises missing, Donkey Kong, and Earthbound. They fit nicely into 2 and 7.
The next is the gap between 11 and 16. There are 4 spots inbetween(12, 13, 14, 15). Remebering from Melee, there were three franchises added that have not yet made the list:Fire Emblem, Ice Climbers, and Game&Watch. If they are not removed that means they will fill in 12, 13 and 14.
We now have two gaps left, at 17 and 15. This means that there are two franchise we don't know about. However, ther is one that I skipped over, Metal Gear Solid. The reason is that we all know by knoqww that Snake is to be hidden. So, it begs the question on how exactly Sakurai organized these. It is possibe the MGS symbol is 17(or even 15). Or that it coulb be 19+ as it is hidden and a third party franchise(meaning he may have categorized it differently). All in all, we may have two potential franchise, or just one(if MGS symbol is 15/17). Of course, this is assuming 18 is aa cap, which it might be(or close to the top). This doesn't give us much, but as the site continues to update it will be much clearer.
So there you go. A bit long I know. But, this is all just a theory. I wouldn't doubt that some musicians aren't credited yet. And some franchises I know little about. If you find anything, let me know. Hope you enjoyed.
Looking thought the musicians, I noticed something. Each song is done by two people, the Composition Supervisor and the Arrangement Supervisor. The Composition Supervisor is the one who originally made the music. The Arrangement Supervisor is the person who is arranging the new tune. So, the Composition is the man who made the music and overlooks the arrangement who is making the song for the game.
The point? Using this we may be able to tell which franchise will be in Brawl. An example: let's look at Yohsi's Story: Ending. The Composition Supervisor is Kazumi Totaka. If you knew anything about Nintendo you'd know he did the music for a few Yoshi game, Luigi's Mansion, Animal Crossing and is the voice of Yoshi. The Arrangement Supervisor is Masafumi Takada. With the exception of this Arrangement, he has never worked on a Nintendo game. So we know that Totake is working on overseeing the project.
So, now we know that some composers are their soley to oversee the arrangement. That means we can look at the Musicians page to see who is going to be a Composition Supervisor. From looking at it, as well as a smig of research we can tell a few of the franchises.
So far we have: Punch-Out, Pikmin, and Animal Crossing. Not much huh? Well, forgive me as the trying to track down specific franchises is a bit harder, and this does not include Japanese only games as info on them is much harder to find. In fact, Nazo no Murasamejou, which is somewhat likely, is almost impossible to find info one(namely the development team). Another Game, Mole Mania, had no Music Composition. Just sound. I do know that Drill Dozer does not appear. Chibi-Robo was also a no show. Custom Robo is also hard to find stuff, but also it's likely to track as the composers have changed between games.
EDIT:Some news. Nazo no Murasamejou was done by Koji Kondo. So, for you Takamaru supporters, here's hope.
EDIT2:Look like Tomoko Sasaki has worked on Sonic. Thanks to Starmanclock, but I still need to find a source(just to make sure)
Now I want to mention Golden Sun specially as it is unique. It's music composer(Motoi Sakuraba) is on the list. But a few things. First, he has done ALOT. Game like Star Ocean and Tales of Desteny come to mind. He seems to work with Camelot a good amount though as he did work on Mario Tennis and Golf as well as Golden Sun. He may be on the staff as Arrangement though as he arranged the original Melee theme. I wouldn't rule him out yet.
Well, what about the Ice Climbers. Will they return? Maybe not. I did not see the Akito Nakatsuka, the composer, on that list. However, he is a weird one. He is credited in Melee. But, Hirokazu Ando who is credited for the Melee theme isn't on there either. But, since he is on the same page he may not have been added. We'll have to see as I wouldn't doubt some composers aren't on their yet but will appear in the credits. It's possible he wouldn't be involved with this at all, and that someone else will oversee the composing.
Now, I will move to the symbols. You all know their are 18 right. That is 17 possible franchises. Pit's is 18. Now, I have something else to tell you
I think Sakurai may have added all the beginning franchises. So, I'm saying that it's possible there are 17 franchises from the start(but don't quote me on this). As that is a bit farfetched it's possible after Pit you have Metal Gear and other 3rd party franchises. However, it still seems strange. If a franchise like Game & Watch was in there it would have been after Pits. But, for now, we'll consider Pit's franchise the last before hidden.
Now lets look at which franchises we have. I assume Marth will be available from the start(or atleast the Fire Emblem franchise). And if no one is cut(no franchises at least) we have about 12(Mario, DK, Zelda, Metroid, Yoshi, Kirby, Starfox, Pokemon, F-Zero, Earthbound, Fire Emblem, Ice Climbers) plus the two new ones(Kid Icuras, Wario) we have 14. And 18 - 14 = 4. So, that means 4 franchises are missing. If we did say Kid Icuras is the last Nintendo symbol it would be 3(including Game&Watch).
Now, you might think that there are only 18. No, that isn't true. So, why look it this way. This is to give us an idea of how many franchises Brawl will have, thus, potential characters. If given an estimate I'd say there could be 21. Why. I assum that Sbake's is not included in the first 18. This is becuase of orginization. The updates may be random, but as you maay know, doing something as making image apon image, orginization helps. So, we can assum he has two apporches to organizing it. Either he has all of the Nintendo franchises then adds the 3rd party. This makes 21 if Pit is the last one(and if that's the case I wouldn't doubt it). The other is these are characters in the game from power on.
Now, Devastlian brought this to my anention.
http://multiverseworks.com/smashicon.php
With this, I made a pretty interesting inference. Looking thought it, I tried to find a pattern. At first glance, there is no order to it. Why is Starfox before Mario, and that weird gap betweem 16 and 18, let alone that large one between 11 and 16. Well, beleive it or not, there is a pattern to it.
Let's look at numbers 1-11 first. Notice something. Well, we can see that 2 and 7 are both missing. Well, if you haven't noticed it yet, these are all the franchises that were in Super Smash Bros for the N64. Now, there are only two franchises missing, Donkey Kong, and Earthbound. They fit nicely into 2 and 7.
The next is the gap between 11 and 16. There are 4 spots inbetween(12, 13, 14, 15). Remebering from Melee, there were three franchises added that have not yet made the list:Fire Emblem, Ice Climbers, and Game&Watch. If they are not removed that means they will fill in 12, 13 and 14.
We now have two gaps left, at 17 and 15. This means that there are two franchise we don't know about. However, ther is one that I skipped over, Metal Gear Solid. The reason is that we all know by knoqww that Snake is to be hidden. So, it begs the question on how exactly Sakurai organized these. It is possibe the MGS symbol is 17(or even 15). Or that it coulb be 19+ as it is hidden and a third party franchise(meaning he may have categorized it differently). All in all, we may have two potential franchise, or just one(if MGS symbol is 15/17). Of course, this is assuming 18 is aa cap, which it might be(or close to the top). This doesn't give us much, but as the site continues to update it will be much clearer.
So there you go. A bit long I know. But, this is all just a theory. I wouldn't doubt that some musicians aren't credited yet. And some franchises I know little about. If you find anything, let me know. Hope you enjoyed.
