Frame traps.

[Raethien]

I cant find anything on Falcons frame traps, so if maybe someone could send me a link to something, or give some tips. That would be great.

 

[Lionman]

Dsmash-Jab

 

[HoodedAltair]

This is something we haven't really looked into too far. Anything we do have had just come naturally.

Dthrow FH Uair (then if they air dodge), bair is a real frame trap...same with dthrow fair (then if they air dodge), Uair which combos to knee

FH Nair falling Uair also ACs so a real frame trap

 

[Nate22Hill]

this is true as ive seen Fatality is known for going for a knee and then if they air dodges he hits him with a knee

 

[Raethien]

This is something we haven't really looked into too far. Anything we do have had just come naturally.

Dthrow FH Uair (then if they air dodge), bair is a real frame trap...same with dthrow fair (then if they air dodge), Uair which combos to knee

FH Nair falling Uair also ACs so a real frame trap

What is FH?

 

[The Pizza Guy]

What is FH?

Full Hop.

 

[Nate22Hill]

im pretty sure at low percents, if you down throw wait for them to airdodge and then jab(gentlemen) which could lead into a jab, it may be a frame trap. Even if its not a frame trap its still pretty effective.

 

[redcometchar]

im pretty sure at low percents, if you down throw wait for them to airdodge and then jab(gentlemen) which could lead into a jab, it may be a frame trap. Even if its not a frame trap its still pretty effective.

That isn't a frame trap. It works well nonetheless.

 

[Roostertone]

I've found that ftilts have a surprising amount of shield knockback. If your opponent blocks and then stays in shield, you can go for a dashgrab. Or, if they hastily lower shield and try to punish, you can catch them with a dash attack instead.

 

[goose32]

I don't think people are being very clear on what a frame trap is. From my understanding, it's when you give your opponent an opening where they think you're vulnerable, then you attack them as they approach/react. Baiting out air dodges doesn't truly fit this description, though it's still very useful.

One that I use: Short hop, fast fall nair, but land before the second kick comes out (this leaves hardly any landing lag). Immediately begin jabbing on the ground; most opponents will drop their shields and go for a grab because they think you have more landing lag, but your jab will connect quicker.

 

[Jrzfine]

The frame trap that Fatality uses is Dthrow > FH Fair (Opponent airdodges) > Falling Uair > Fair. The opponent can escape it by falling towards the Falcon but if they dont its a free knee.

 

[teluoborg]

This is something we haven't really looked into too far. Anything we do have had just come naturally.

Dthrow FH Uair (then if they air dodge), bair is a real frame trap...same with dthrow fair (then if they air dodge), Uair which combos to knee

FH Nair falling Uair also ACs so a real frame trap

Fair has too much ending lag and landing lag to have frame trap potential unless the opponent lands during his airdodge but then in this case even Dair can be a frame trap.

 

[Jrzfine]

Fair has too much ending lag and landing lag to have frame trap potential unless the opponent lands during his airdodge but then in this case even Dair can be a frame trap.

At around 50-60% the airdodge will last until they land if they are a fastfaller. The other day Hooded completely wrecked me using it, so I can confirm that it works.

 

[redcometchar]

At around 50-60% the airdodge will last until they land if they are a fastfaller. The other day Hooded completely wrecked me using it, so I can confirm that it works.

What does the percent matter for?

 

[Jrzfine]

What does the percent matter for?

Well if the opponents percent is too low your knee wont be a full hop, and thus wont lead into a frametrap uair. The percentage range I mentioned is the time where your knee will be a fullhop, the airdodge wont end until they hit the ground, and the resulting uair knee will kill.

 

[LuLLo]

When you are juggling, you can try to hit with bair. If they airdodge, it's a free uair. Don't know if it's a true 100% frametrap, but it works for me everytime.

 

[redcometchar]

When you are juggling, you can try to hit with bair. If they airdodge, it's a free uair. Don't know if it's a true 100% frametrap, but it works for me everytime.

It is.