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FRAME DATA! FRAME DATA! GET YOUR FRAME DATA HERE!

RPK

RPK

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  1. Jab1
  2. Hits on frame: 2.0
  3. Hitboxes end: 5.0
  4. Max Hitbox Damage: 3.0
  5. Max Hitbox BKB: 30
  6. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 90.0
  7. Max Hitbox Angle: 80

  9. Jab2
  10. Hits on frame: 3.0
  11. Hitboxes end: 6.0
  12. Max Hitbox Damage: 2.0
  13. Max Hitbox BKB: 30
  14. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 60.0
  15. Max Hitbox Angle: 80

  17. unknown substate 0x55
  18. Hits on frame: 5.0
  19. Hitboxes end: 7.0
  20. Max Hitbox Damage: 3.0
  21. Max Hitbox BKB: 100
  22. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 180.0
  23. Max Hitbox Angle: 45

  25. Dash Attack
  26. Hits on frame: 8.0
  27. Hitboxes end: 19.0
  28. Max Hitbox Damage: 9.0
  29. Extra Shield Damage: 1
  30. Max Hitbox BKB: 70
  31. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 720.0
  32. Max Hitbox Angle: 65

  34. F-tilt (normal)
  35. Hits on frame: 6.0
  36. Hitboxes end: 9.0
  37. Max Hitbox Damage: 9.0
  38. Max Hitbox BKB: 100
  39. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 0.0
  40. Max Hitbox Angle: 361

  42. U-tilt
  43. Hits on frame: 5.0
  44. Hitboxes end: 17.0
  45. Max Hitbox Damage: 5.0
  46. Max Hitbox BKB: 150
  47. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 150.0
  48. Max Hitbox Angle: 90

  50. D-tilt
  51. Hits on frame: 7.0
  52. Hitboxes end: 10.0
  53. Max Hitbox Damage: 12.0
  54. Max Hitbox BKB: 90
  55. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 600.0
  56. Max Hitbox Angle: 75

  58. F-smash release (normal)
  59. Hits on frame: 17.0
  60. Hitboxes end: 21.0
  61. Max Hitbox Damage: 15.0
  62. Max Hitbox BKB: 90
  63. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 630.0
  64. Max Hitbox Angle: 361

  66. U-smash release
  67. Hits on frame: 8.0
  68. Hitboxes end: 20.0
  69. Max Hitbox Damage: 12.0
  70. Max Hitbox BKB: 98
  71. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 360.0
  72. Max Hitbox Angle: 80

  74. D-smash release
  75. Hits on frame: 7.0
  76. Hitboxes end: 10.0
  77. Max Hitbox Damage: 15.0
  78. Max Hitbox BKB: 76
  79. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 300.0
  80. Max Hitbox Angle: 25

  82. Nair
  83. Hits on frame: 3.0
  84. Hitboxes end: 25.0
  85. Max Hitbox Damage: 4.0
  86. Max Hitbox BKB: 130
  87. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 160.0
  88. Max Hitbox Angle: 361

  90. Fair
  91. Hits on frame: 12.0
  92. Hitboxes end: 37.0
  93. Max Hitbox Damage: 4.0
  94. Max Hitbox BKB: 145
  95. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 220.0
  96. Max Hitbox Angle: 361

  98. Bair
  99. Hits on frame: 4.0
  100. Hitboxes end: 12.0
  101. Max Hitbox Damage: 13.0
  102. Max Hitbox BKB: 130
  103. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 0.0
  104. Max Hitbox Angle: 361

  106. Uair
  107. Hits on frame: 10.0
  108. Hitboxes end: 15.0
  109. Max Hitbox Damage: 11.0
  110. Max Hitbox BKB: 100
  111. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 297.0
  112. Max Hitbox Angle: 68

  114. Dair
  115. Hits on frame: 16.0
  116. Hitboxes end: 31.0
  117. Max Hitbox Damage: 13.0
  118. Max Hitbox BKB: 80
  119. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 130.0
  120. Max Hitbox Angle: 285

  122. Fair Landing
  123. Hits on frame: 1.0
  124. Hitboxes end: 2.0
  125. Max Hitbox Damage: 5.0
  126. Max Hitbox BKB: 160
  127. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 150.0
  128. Max Hitbox Angle: 45

  130. Pummel
  131. Hits on frame: 5.0
  132. Hitboxes end: 6.0
  133. Max Hitbox Damage: 2.0
  134. Max Hitbox BKB: 100
  135. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 0.0
  136. Max Hitbox Angle: 80

  138. F-throw
  139. Hits on frame: 10.0
  140. Hitboxes end: 12.0
  141. Max Hitbox Damage: 4.0
  142. Extra Shield Damage: 1
  143. Max Hitbox BKB: 100
  144. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 40.0
  145. Max Hitbox Angle: 55

  147. B-throw
  148. Hits on frame: 0.0
  149. Hitboxes end: 0.0
  150. Max Hitbox Damage: 6.0
  151. Max Hitbox BKB: 60
  152. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 0
  153. Max Hitbox Angle: 35

  155. U-throw
  156. Hits on frame: 0.0
  157. Hitboxes end: 0.0
  158. Max Hitbox Damage: 4.0
  159. Max Hitbox BKB: 100
  160. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 0
  161. Max Hitbox Angle: 94

  163. D-throw
  164. Hits on frame: 0.0
  165. Hitboxes end: 0.0
  166. Max Hitbox Damage: 3.0
  167. Max Hitbox BKB: 110
  168. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 0
  169. Max Hitbox Angle: 50





  175. unknown substate 0x229
  176. Hits on frame: 16.0
  177. Hitboxes end: 0.0
  178. Max Hitbox Damage: 12.0
  179. Max Hitbox BKB: 60
  180. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 1020.0
  181. Max Hitbox Angle: 40

  183. unknown substate 0x243
  184. Hits on frame: 20.0
  185. Hitboxes end: 21.0
  186. Max Hitbox Damage: 2.0
  187. Max Hitbox BKB: 40
  188. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 80.0
  189. Max Hitbox Angle: 70

  191. unknown substate 0x24b
  192. Hits on frame: 1.0
  193. Hitboxes end: 8.0
  194. Max Hitbox Damage: 3.0
  195. Max Hitbox BKB: 50
  196. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 90.0
  197. Max Hitbox Angle: 361

  199. unknown substate 0x24c
  200. Hits on frame: 0.0
  201. Hitboxes end: 0.0
  202. Max Hitbox Damage: 2.0
  203. Max Hitbox BKB: 40
  204. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 136.0
  205. Max Hitbox Angle: 80

  207. unknown substate 0x24d
  208. Hits on frame: 1.0
  209. Hitboxes end: 32.0
  210. Max Hitbox Damage: 8.0
  211. Max Hitbox BKB: 45
  212. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage: 520.0
  213. Max Hitbox Angle: 361
 
Maniak

Maniak

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Not used to smash frame data more SF series. Do you guys not use the negative/poitive frames on block or positive frames on hit etc?
 
RPK

RPK

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I'm not sure about a lot of people since most don't look at frame data, but I did. It was good to know the start up, and ending lag of your moves, but mostly those of other people. For example in Brawl Metaknight's D-smash had about 11 frames of lag. Most people thought the move was completely unpunishable considering how fast it was. Well, looking at the frame data showed that it was certainly possible to punish it considering the wide window after looking at frame data. And knowing the frame data on buffing a dash upsmash from a drop shield...Well you get the idea. So yeah, frame data is extremely helpful
 
Maniak

Maniak

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Yes I know it is just trying to understand the smash frame data. We call laggy moves negative framed moves which are unsafe moves. Which part of this is the lag/negative frames part? Sorry
 
~ Gheb ~

~ Gheb ~

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Anyone know how to figure out frame advantages on block? I think these are the most important. Fox bair for example looks suspiciously safe on block to the point where you might be able to have a hitbox out by the time the opponent has just dropped his shield. Would like to know stuff like that for sure.

:059:
 
elmike

elmike

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Can someone please elaborate on the definition of each one? Not really sure what it means...
For example, what is "max hitbox BKB"? (What is BKB?) or what does exactly "max hitbox angle" means?

  1. Hits on frame
  2. Hitboxes end
  3. Max Hitbox Damage
  4. Max Hitbox BKB
  5. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage:
  6. Max Hitbox Angle:
 
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~ Gheb ~

~ Gheb ~

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elmike said:
Can someone please elaborate on the definition of each one? Not really sure what it means...
For example, what is "max hitbox BKB"? (What is BKB?) or what does exactly "max hitbox angle" means?

  1. Hits on frame
  2. Hitboxes end
  3. Max Hitbox Damage
  4. Max Hitbox BKB
  5. Max Hitbox KBG * Damage:
  6. Max Hitbox Angle:
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1.) Kind of self-explanatory but it tells you at which frame a move's hitbox activates.
2.) Tells you when a moves hitbox stops being active. The difference between 2 - 1 also tells you the duration of the hitbox
3.) This is the maximum amount of damage a move can do at max. Some moves do different damage depending on how you angle them
4.) BKB means base knockback. It tells you how much knockback a move does at 0%. Max Hitbox BKB tells you the highest amount of knockback a move can possibly inflict
5.) KBG means knock back growth. It tells you how much a move's knockback increases as your opponent's % gets higher.
6.) Not 100% what max hitbox angle refers to. Not a very important value I think.

:059:
 
luke_atyeo

luke_atyeo

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Gheb_01 said:
Anyone know how to figure out frame advantages on block? I think these are the most important. Fox bair for example looks suspiciously safe on block to the point where you might be able to have a hitbox out by the time the opponent has just dropped his shield. Would like to know stuff like that for sure.

:059:
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worth looking into but I can tell you (with an almost 100% certainty) that if you bair a shield, and autocancel that bair into a move (Say a dmash) and they drop shield to punish or shield grab, the dsmash/insert other move with similar startup will hit them before they can do anything (havent seen it against rolls, stepdodges but I would imagine you have time to hit someone out of the start of roll/stepdodge)
 
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