Fox uthrow uair %s?

[Rachman]

Is there a generally accepted list of %s where it is guaranteed on any DI on all the top tiers? I saw this list that Bones posted
"Dr. Mario: Never
Luigi: Never
Peach: Never
Captain Falcon: 64%+
Ganondorf: 65% - 143%
Falco: 30%+
Fox: 29%+
Ice Climbers: 40% - 65% (this one was annoying so I might be way off on the ending percent)
Samus: Never
Sheik: 20%+
Jigglypuff: 0% - 90%
Marth: 19%+"
but I wasn't sure if that was completely accurate or what since I get uthrow-uair on peaches plenty.
I appreciate any assistance!

 

[bearsfan092]

These are really questionable and DI dependent. The Peach one is just outright wrong. Ganondorf is somewhere around that range if they don't DI, but DI ruins the Uthrow Uair chain. Samus you can sort of uthrow uair at some percents but you have to read, and it's pretty dangerous. Marth you can get from 0 if their DI is insufficient (often leads to multiple uairs if you can get the first one). I have no idea for ICs.

Furthermore, some of the characters that you "can't" uthrow uair can be punished if you can bait out a counter aerial, but no one above a reasonable level of play falls for this more than once, so don't count on it. I'm a fan of throwing these characters off stage instead of trying to combo them.

Also don't try to uthrow uair Falcon, Fox, and Falco at those percents. Fox and Falco are around the 130ish range, but at the lower ranges the chain grab is easier and probably better. Falcon you want to get offstage (either throw directly or use uthrow bair) rather than try to vertically kill him until high percent, since between bair, shine, and Falcon's awful recovery, the edgeguards are pretty easy.

 

[The Prince L]

"Peach: Never"

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Jigglypuff you can uthrow uair until a little after 100%, I know that for sure. Like 105-110%. Very difficult, but possible.

And like bearsfan said, its very DI dependent. You can make uthrow->uair work on anyone that doesn't DI, simply because fox's uair has a decent amount of priority and it autocancels in a full hop. If they jump out you just follow their jump, get below them and uair again (and then proceed to take their stock because they dont have a DJ). And most characters like Marth and Puff, if they SDI the uair you can land (autocancel) and fullhop bair before they get an attack out.

 

[Bones0]

"Peach: Never"

Did a quick run through of uthrow uair percents. I'm sure these are off, but they should all be pretty close. "+" indicates it combos until at least 150%.

 

[Rachman]

I didn't mean to present them as doctrinal or try to call you out. I was just wondering when it was me messing up and when it was simply not a true combo even if I reacted perfectly. If there's not a true list of when it is guaranteed on all DIs, I might have myself a project to do after the semester is over