https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ke-VjKKpDfA thoughts? I have had a few other shines spikes against certain characters ever since the patch. Anyone else experimented with this a bit?
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Fox shinespikes viable since 1.10?
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The Shine buff is more of a situational off stage tool than it is a reliable edgeguard.
It doesn't work too well against a decent set of the roster who have incredible recoveries that don't need a second jump and/or they are invincible (Sheik, ZSS, G&W etc.). It's a pretty limited option because Nair tends to outclass it a little when intercepting recoveries above and at stage level.
However, it has uses when gimping beneath the stage and stage spiking. Combining Fox's fast fall speed with the shine and you can gimp people beneath the stage somewhat well depending on the character of course. It's also a lot safer than trying Bair/Nair when that deep because Fox's fall speed+the end lag means you won't be coming back.
It has uses, and definitely worth understanding for when you get kills with it, but don't rely on it/go for it all the time. Nair is our best tool for intercepting recoveries and gimping at stage level, so that is more preferential more often, but don't ignore this option should the opportunity present itself.
It doesn't work too well against a decent set of the roster who have incredible recoveries that don't need a second jump and/or they are invincible (Sheik, ZSS, G&W etc.). It's a pretty limited option because Nair tends to outclass it a little when intercepting recoveries above and at stage level.
However, it has uses when gimping beneath the stage and stage spiking. Combining Fox's fast fall speed with the shine and you can gimp people beneath the stage somewhat well depending on the character of course. It's also a lot safer than trying Bair/Nair when that deep because Fox's fall speed+the end lag means you won't be coming back.
It has uses, and definitely worth understanding for when you get kills with it, but don't rely on it/go for it all the time. Nair is our best tool for intercepting recoveries and gimping at stage level, so that is more preferential more often, but don't ignore this option should the opportunity present itself.
DavemanCozy
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It's unreliable imo, it's most useful properties still remain being able to reflect and stalling your air momentum
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I think there's a few places for it, but they're really rare.
Foster J.
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I've actually been fiddling a bit with shine the past few days against tether recoveries.
If you take notice of Nairo offstage he just goes for the tether and zooms back to the ledge most of the time, but in some situations you have a frame window where you can hit them out of it.
I think this applies mostly to Samus, Lucas and the Links compared to ZSS though.
