Fox extra-fast edgehog

[Dynamite_Hack]

Just wondering if this is already known or not:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tj_YG3wINwE
I'm expecting that it is, given how long Smash 64's been around, but I didn't find anything else about it, here or on youtube.
It's just timing a dash turnaround correctly so that Fox skids off the edge and grabs it; useful for edgehogging someone that you've just hit off from the center. It only works with Fox, at least as far as I've been able to see, but it works with any ledge where there's room beforehand for Fox to finish his first dash animation. (If there isn't, you do a dash-dance obviously, which doesn't give the "skidding" animation required for this.)

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Everyone pretty much knows this. Its easiest with falcon and fox, easier with falcon than with fox I find.

Its called a "dash-pivot edgehog"

Remember to fastfall as you go off the edge so that you grab it instead of falling off.

edit :

osnap I forgot you could do it like in your video aswell but yes I did know about that version. I assumed you were talking about pivot edgehogging.

 

[Dynamite_Hack]

Everyone pretty much knows this. Its easiest with falcon and fox, easier with falcon than with fox I find.

Its called a "dash-pivot edgehog"

Remember to fastfall as you go off the edge so that you grab it instead of falling off.

edit :

osnap I forgot you could do it like in your video aswell but yes I did know about that version. I assumed you were talking about pivot edgehogging.

So this is already known, correct?
And pivot edgehogging is simply running towards the edge, turning around, and shorthopping off to grab the ledge?

 

[Zen Yore]

fox is the only char that can grab the edge with his dash-turnarround
other characters have to dash pivot, it's easier with Falcon and Luigi, Mario and Kirby.
Harder with other chars.

 

[House]

fox is the only char that can grab the edge with his dash-turnarround

Ness can do it as well, although it is certainly much more difficult to perform than fox's.

 

[Dynamite_Hack]

Ness can do it as well, although it is certainly much more difficult to perform than fox's.

Hmm, I tried Ness before and couldn't quite get it... But I tried again, and you're right, on both counts.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

So this is already known, correct?
And pivot edgehogging is simply running towards the edge, turning around, and shorthopping off to grab the ledge?

Nah you dash-pivot the right distance from the edge with certain chars and you fall off facing towards the ledge. fastfall to grab it

 

[Dynamite_Hack]

Nah you dash-pivot the right distance from the edge with certain chars and you fall off facing towards the ledge. fastfall to grab it

Do you have a video of someone doing this with other characters than Fox/Ness? I'm trying to figure out whether it's the same thing as what I'm doing.

 

[greenblob]

I definitely know that Fox and Luigi can do this out of their full dashes. Every other character can do it out of their initial dash, although some characters, such as Jiggly, are extremely awkward at it and for them it's better to just jump off the stage and grab the ledge. I do it with Falcon all the time.

 

[Lawrencelot]

I don't know anyone who doesn't know that technique and plays fox. Yet, I find it hard to do with Falcon, maybe it isn't even possible with keyboard, but with fox it's a really easy technique.

 

[Wenbobular]

With Fox I just found it out by playing...one day I turn around too close to the ledge and poof, I'm grabbing it

 

[Thino]

I can hardly do this with anyone but Fox

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

You can also do it with yoshi in a similar way

dash pivot double jump land

 

[killa k]

lol i do this all the time w/ falcon and fox. its really helpful

 

[Lawrencelot]

Can anybody who uses keyboard do this with for example Falcon?

 

[Tambor]

Can anybody who uses keyboard do this with for example Falcon?

I can.... I have done it with all characters but Yoshi and DK. And I think it's easiest with Falcon, Mario and Luigi.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Dashpivot-showmeyamoves-fastfall-edgehog

ftw

GG

 

[MattNF]

Dashpivot-showmeyamoves-fastfall-edgehog

ftw

GG

Then throw some of these in there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSXStr1DQ9Q