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Flashy and Fast edgehog

Witchking_of_Angmar

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If you're running and you jump, there are a number of frames where you don't leave the ground, and you continue sliding along the ground until you jump. If you fall off before your character leaves the ground, you don't jump off, you just fall off the ledge. AlphaZealot called it "jump falling."

You can combine this with shine turnaround:

run->shine->turnaround->jump->fall off->grab ledge

momentum--------------------------|off the ledge----------- lol timeline


It's tricky, because you have to time the jump right, and you have to do it quickly in combination with a shine turnaround really close to the edge so you don't lose momentum.

I can do the regular jump fall with falco on FD about 50%. I'm sure many more technical people will be able to do it 100%, then packing in a shine turnaround before should just be a matter of practice.

This looks extremely flashy and is one of the faster methods.


I'm not sure how many people know about this, but I have only seen one person do it, so I don't think too many do. Maybe I just need to watch more vids. You can do this with Fox too, but it's harder, because his jump is 4 frames, so the timing is trickier.

I'm not claiming this technique as my own, just putting it out there for those that don't know yet.
 
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This is quite old. I've been meaning to try something with it but with Fox.
Let's say a Falco is standing on the ledge. You do this to cancel the first shine and hit him with it, then you immediately shine again since the last one was canceled, then jump out of that one and shine him again. Sort of like a triple shine spike I suppose. You would need more than speed too. You would have to be able to time the second shine after a bit of fast falling after the first one I'd expect. Not positive that it is possible, but If you get what I'm saying and have experimented with anything similar, it'd seem logical.

EDIT - I told AZ to add this to the terms list when he was looking for more input on it some time ago. Don't know why it's not on there now. Same with turn canceling. These are both commonly used but not intentionally used techniques.
 

Witchking_of_Angmar

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AZ had it in a little post called "Random Smash Tidbits" and some smashers I know and I sort of discussed it and came up with the triple shine as well. I'm positive that it works, since you can hit people twice with a regular doubleshine, and this is much faster. I know that it's old, but obviously it's more of an accidental-not-well-known-thing, so I posted it anyways.

I think it looks really nice in battle, especially with Fox. Do it!
 

demon itachi

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with falco you can use jump falling off the edge then do a rising dair to edge gaurd
 
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