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Yea concerning Sm4sh I think that is a bizarre response.
i don't see the problem with this one
What I mean is the fact that
Huh? I just don't get it...
'hey wait do you know obscure unimportant smash fact?'
Hmmm I ask other dudes stuff about Smash whenever I'm at my scene. So what exactly about it bothers you?
i dont get this personally, so i cant say for SCF3, but i think what people in this thread arent understanding is the fact that this is done in a CONDESCENDING manner. like 'oh well duh you dont know this fact'
Ok I see.
but yeah talking fun facts about the game should be the norm cuz we all enjoy this game so if we ever see each other at a tournament we gon be talkin smash high five
*High Fives*
Chronodiver Lokii
is right, what I mean is that it's said in a condescending manner.
This is why I'm glad my little sister mostly doesn't get harassed online. This bull**** about "women not being real gamers because they're expected to ONLY know about "feminine" stuff" needs to stop.
I agree. Completely.
Do you feel that it is very much directed at you for being a woman or are people probing to see if you are into the competitive side of things?
Sadly, it's just how our society has evolved. This is one of the faults of how we humans have evolved, and nature in general, where all females are "supposed to be nurturing and delicate". Me? I don't think this rule stands up anymore in today's world, where we honestly need more variety and different mindsets on certain topics.Do you feel that it is very much directed at you for being a woman or are people probing to see if you are into the competitive side of things?
I say that because for both women and men the Smash series can be divided into pretty much two halves. The group of people who play the game with no strive for improvement and those that are dedicated enough to want to get better. For me, I play the smash games for the latter half seeing it as a challenge to get better at something that is fun. Similar to wanting to get better at any other skill. Therefore, I find it hard to relate to people who never want to discuss the game on a competitive level.
There have been so many people I have met at the university weekly events I go to that come and never come back. Whether it be men or women its pretty much all the same. Some will come for a couple times, then never show up again. I have been doing many of these for the past 4 years. The tournament going player base I know about has increased, but for the most part its is VERY rare to find an individual dedicated enough to stick with the game at a competitive interest for months.
In all of that time I have seen only one women come back repeatedly and show interest in striving to improve. But, even among the men its rare as I think there are only 2 dozen people I would say who have repeatedly shown they are invested to stay over the course of like 4 years.
Anyway, my point to this is I wonder how many people do you think are treating you differently than they do others because you are a women or possibly because that is how they treat everyone. I am not certain of your circumstance, but it was a thought that came to mind.
At this point for me I am not really going to bother paying attention to anyone too much until I know they have similar interests in the game as I do. Which I find out by either seeing them come back again and again for several months or the fact they can play well. It similar I think to pretty much every topic. People want to find other with the same interests they do and they sort of "test" you in directly or indirectly.
*Internal thinking*
Cool, someone else likes to play smash :D
Oh, they do not like it in the same ways I do. That sucks
Including myself, there are some guys that are very open to anyone who can battle competitive, no matter their sex, or gender.i think scf3 was trying to say those points happen in all games. some people are so blind by patriarchal structure that they think only men play games, and get so surprised about girls playing games they almost don't believe them, and have to question them. I'd say they would ask about the game first. then probe to see if they're competitive afterwards.
despite me having that encounter with that guy in my preious post in this thread, I've encountered heaps of dudes that are like "**** yeah! give us ya friend code and i'll vs you! this is so exciting!" i think that is definitely the right attitude to have and actually has encouraged me to play the game more.
You have to realize that that happens to guys too.
It's more frequent with girls, though I may be wrong.
Well, it's nice that people are a bit more open nowadays.Eh, I've always loved fighting games in general, just from time to time people act surprised that I like the games and I'm good at them.
But in general it's not so shocking, at least here in Mexico.
Oh, when I was younger though, none of the guys would let me play because I was a girl, most of my childhood was spent watching the other guys play ssb64
You are wrong. It's absurd that you'd think gender has anything to do with it. They're telling you something because you don't know it, not because you're not a male.
I misunderstood your question. I was reading too quickly, dude. Sorry for being ignorant.
This is so true, sady...
That's exactly my thoughts on the matter here.
But, hey, at least my sister isn't getting harrased online. Hecl, she even has some friends online because of her skill level.
Thanks. It's just hard. If a girl gets interested in a game competitively and notices that she might be one of the very few girls, it's just scary and daunting for some to actually get involved in a community. But it would still be good if more girls do it, so then, "competitive girls" become a bit less rare, hopefully making it easier for other girls to join, so we might someday (will take a very long time) get around a 50/50 ratio. I mean, I once read this statistic that 48% of gamers are female, and I know many girls like Smash casually, so there's enough potential.
That's good, but I do notice that girls need to prove themselves more than guys, which is just blatant sexism. She should have friends because of her personality, not because of her skill level.
I think we SHOULD get more female gamers into the Smash community. Lift their fears, and show them that we're accepting of newcomers, including women.
The problem is that we might both be accepting, and more people might be accepting, but there are also too many people who are not welcoming and open-minded. A solution needs to be found to stop those people, but that's easier said than done.
Nah, she's a perfectly sensible 12 year old. She doesn't brag about it, and her friends apparently like her personality online, so...
Yeah, I realize that pretty well. It's gonna be a hard and long time, but I think it's going to be worth it in the end. Ten years' time, I believe.
