Falco User

[KarnIge WoLF]

My main is falco, and I can do all the advance techs. with him, but it's just that I started using fox, can this affect the way I play with my falco?? Yeah it's harder to play with fox than falco because he is a more of a fast faller. Or would it actually help my falco?

 

[takieddine]

fox if played life falco will suck.

Fox has a better grab game than falco, fox combos upwards (usually).

Fox doesnt rely on his lasers as much.

and finally fox has a recovery.

 

[Deuce]

I think falco actually falls faster than fox (I think)

 

[Zankoku]

Fox falls faster, but it takes longer for him to reach his top falling speed.
Fox definitely relies on his lasers quite a bit, just not in the same way as Falco.

Falco recovery is like, a third of Fox's.

 

[Silent Wolf]

Just get used to both of them, don't think of them as nearly the same character.

 

[RaynEX]

Try NOT to play you're Falco like you play your Fox.

It just won't work. I agree with Takieddine, Fox's grab game is way more important than his lasers...

 

[SCOTU]

Falco Falls faster than fox, but fox gets to his top speed much faster. They both use their lasers a bunch (for different reasons). Fox tends to combo horizontally (with shines) and vertically w/ grabs. Like SW said: they're two completely different characters. It would only mess your falco up as much as playing with anyone else would.

 

[KarnIge WoLF]

Try NOT to play you're Falco like you play your Fox.

It just won't work. I agree with Takieddine, Fox's grab game is way more important than his lasers...

I actually play the same way, and by the way i ain't new to smashboards. I shL, try to pillar and waveshine, but I like falco's waveshine better, not only that but it's easier. I think I have improved my falco because of fox, timing is really different.

 

[SCOTU]

No, you're probably doing something wrong if you play them the same. Their laser game is completely different, their approaches are vastly different, and their combos/ kill methods are worlds apart.

 

[Miharu]

Fox has an approach called nair. Either that, or grab/shine/jab. Dash attack's a crappy approach; gets you punished way too often.

Falco's approach is SHL into aerial/grab/shine.

 

[Oskurito]

Just get used to both of them but maybe you'll have some trouble with waveshining because their wavedash timings are entirely different

 

[RaynEX]

Listen to Scotu, he definetly has the right idea.

I've played with some of the big timers, and have gotten alot of helpful tips.

I can tell you, with confidence, that Falco should NOT be played like Fox. Fox should be smart, using his variety of approaches and set ups to his advantage. When it comes to Falco, I believe there is a bit more room to pull out a Rambo. You know? Just be a little reckless, because he has the lasers to cover his approaches and his retreats.

With Fox: Lasers, reverse and forward SHed, should be used (as clearly stated in CunningKitsunes guide somewhere) coerce you opponent to make a hasty attack. The annoying ticking of damage does that for you. You don't approach and laser; thats Falco's thing. Think of it as a long-range baiting tool. You use it to pull them in. Fox is at his best close-up. With his shine to beat shield grabs, and his shine COMBOS to deal vast amounts of damage in seconds...its when he's close to his opponent that Fox really shines. (No pun intended).

With Falco: You're at an advantage up close, just like Fox. The only difference is, Falco isn't only an immediate threat up close; for his lasers stop you dead across stages.

You're best bet with Falco would be to just SHL them. Theres no harm in that. Approach at will, when you see an opening, strike. Either shine, grab, jab, smash...there are so many options. Waveshining is one of Fox's main techniques. Falco, arguably, has much more to offer. His lasers give many more leeways.

Don't ALWAYS go for the waveshine with Falco. Be aggressive and go for the grab sometimes. Try a quick shorthop, double jump FF waveland back to juke your opponent. Don't just run at them and D-air then shine. My main suggestion with Falco is to try for grabs more. Most people don't expect a grab after a Dair...or an SHL. Most opponents I face just block the dair and think I'm going to shine so keep blocking.

Iuno...something try something like that. Hope it helps :S

 

[kenny10]

They are different characters with many differences. They use their lasers differently, they combo with their shines differently, waveshining is more important to a Fox than a Falco, their dair is completely different, and Falco has pillaring while Fox has his shine infinites to break down an opponents shield.

 

[RaynEX]

He knows their differences. Its if playing one helps in playing the other, and if he should incorporate habits he tends to see in his playstyle from one spacey to the other.

Theres not much you can do about it. Except possibly noticing certain fox-like tendencies in your falco, and pidgeon-like tendencies in your fox, and snuffing them both out and continue with your game. Both spacies need their own seperate and distinct playstyles.

 

[Abortion Doc]

Ahem, anyway... being on the inverse side of your situation, I know a Fox, yet I suck terribly with Falco. This is why it annoys me when certain characters are called clones, since usually their playing styles are so drastically different just because of a few differences.