Europe gets SSB!

[Qnez]

http://www.gonintendo.com/viewstory.php?id=85378

Finally, can't wait for this game.

 

[Fireblaster]

Sweet, now we can pay for an overpriced ROM with inferior controls and no online play.

 

[Daedatheus]

I miss that game....i was unstoppable with kirby

May get this... but is their any reason when Melee and Brawl are so much better?

LOL indeed.... not sure if I'd want it to have online. Well, guess it couldn't be worse than EGX

Does North America even have this on VC yet?

I actually recently played a friend who had hacked his Wii to get ssb64 on it.
It runs very well, and has a nice resolution. We played using Gamecube controllers, which was better than the Wii Classic controller for sure.

In any case, there's no point for "serious" players like ourselves, as Fireblaster said. Emulator + online = far more win.

 

[Fireblaster]

Even if the Wii version had some magical online that somehow matched the quality of p2p smash, the gamecube controller default setup for smash 64 blows.

If we assume the controls are the same as they are for the hacked SSB version (It's nintendo, they're not gonna treat this game with special care, they're just gonna attach the same default controls to it of every other game), then Z is taunt, L is shield, R is grab, and the C-stick makes you jump. This wouldn't be so bad IF MELEE AND BARLW DIDN'T EXIST. But since they DO exist, most of you have likely PLAYED them, with the gamecube controller no less. Therefore your intuition of playing smash with gamecube controllers will lead you to do dumb crap in 64 like doing a shield pressure into taunt instead of grab, grabbing with R instead of shielding with R, double jumping when trying to use the Cstick instead of an aerial.

Ok, let's give it the benefit of the doubt and nintendo magically allows us to have custom controls (that's lol-worthy). Just try doing SHDL's with fox or doing shine cancels. The layout of the face buttons in the gamecube controller are one of the worst I've ever seen.

Oh, but you say, what about the classic controller? Well look at the n64 face button layout

Notice how A is bottom, B is Left, and Jump are Top and Right

Now the CC:

A is replaced by B, A is moved to the Right while Jump take the Top and Left

So your intuition will lead you to pressing B when you wanted to do an A attack and A when you wanted to jump. You wanted to press B? Too bad, you get to jump instead.

**** you Nintendo. You may get a lot of idiots to buy your overpriced crap and ROM's, but I aint one of them.

 

[Daedatheus]

Ok, let's give it the benefit of the doubt and nintendo magically allows us to have custom controls (that's lol-worthy).

That's the only thing that could be its saving grace.
Remember that there are adapters now that let you use N64 controllers (and others) on your wii...

But then what's the point. Just play it on 64.
Unless you don't have one and you don't have smash64, in which case you just need to pick up a controller.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

wait... are you saying that after all this time, I could have been playing brawl with a 64 controller? That would make it ten times easier, as all the buttons are more conveniently placed on the 64 controller (plus, I don't use the C-stick). I could 'wavedash' with yoshi very easily using the djc method in 64 (right c, down c, a). Then again, it's brawl, and it sucks when compared to melee and 64 (not saying it's bad... but had to edit it to rephrase my sentence...)

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

I have a n64 to gc adapter, so it works fine for me XD

 

[Qnez]

I have it now. I play it on the GC controller. controls are=L and R are shield, Y/X and C stick are jump, Z is grab, D-pad is taunt. Seems like they kept the controls like melee and brawl, except C stick.

 

[Fireblaster]

I have it now. I play it on the GC controller. controls are=L and R are shield, Y/X and C stick are jump, Z is grab, D-pad is taunt. Seems like they kept the controls like melee and brawl, except C stick.

How sensitive is the stick jump compared to Melee and barlw?

If it's the same, then this setup is decent... if you don't play as fox.

 

[Qnez]

I don't know for sure, cause I never jump with the stick in brawl/melee, but its decent, and not too hard to jump/short hop.

 

[NixxxoN]

Finally, can't wait for this game.

You didn't have to wait.

Play online with emulator, its better. If your from europe join the european online ssb group to find players.
Add this to msn: group74422@groupsim.com - Its a chat where players meet and talk about playing and stuff

 

[Fireblaster]

I don't know for sure, cause I never jump with the stick in brawl/melee, but its decent, and not too hard to jump/short hop.

Well, I ask this because the hacked SSB Wii version has a ridiculously small deadzone, making it really easy to stick jump when you weren't even trying to, specially when doing stuff like ff uairs and such.

From the sound of it you didn't have that problem, so I can assume they made it the same sensitivity of the other smash games, since they also adjusted the buttons to feel like melee/barlw.

 

[Qnez]

Well, I ask this because the

hacked SSB Wii version has a ridiculously small deadzone, making it really easy to stick jump when you weren't even trying to, specially when doing stuff like ff uairs and such.

From the sound of it you didn't have that problem, so I can assume they made it the same sensitivity of the other smash games, since they also adjusted the buttons to feel like melee/barlw.

Nope. If anything, its even harder to do it then melee/brawl(pretty much still the same really)

Nah, I already have it for an emulator, but it didn't gave me the same feel. I waited for this VC release since galaxy came out, and I'm glad I don't have to play it on the PC now^^ and of course being able to play it with my white longer cord GC controller is awesome too. I'm also not good enough to join clans really, last time I played this game was 7 years ago or so, and I sucked. And link is my main.

 

[Fireblaster]

Nope. If anything, its even harder to do it then melee/brawl(pretty much still the same really)

Nah, I already have it for an emulator, but it didn't gave me the same feel. I waited for this VC release since galaxy came out, and I'm glad I don't have to play it on the PC now^^ and of course being able to play it with my white longer cord GC controller is awesome too. I'm also not good enough to join clans really, last time I played this game was 7 years ago or so, and I sucked. And link is my main.

PC version is superior. PC version has custom controls, use any controller you want, as high a resolution as you want, gameshark codes, and ONLINE PLAY.

VC version is decent at best for offline play... once again as long as you don't play as fox.

 

[Mr. Rogu]

what, you serious?? wow usa, step up. were like the only country that doesnt have it on wii shop.

 

[Superstar]

VC and Console is best if you want to play with people offline.

PC version is technically superior, but it's bad if you got buds over. Hard to get buds to play this game though, they prefer shiny new things.

 

[Daedatheus]

Hard to get buds to play this game though, they prefer shiny new things.

You seriously live in the wrong place.
Everyone played smash64 at some point in their lifetime... or so it seems from everyone I've been meeting recently. I was at someone's place the other weekend playing beer pong, suddenly a guy flips on Smash64 with a few other people. I go in and wreck'em all at once

I've met a lot of people who play this game, whether for casual fun or think they're really good. I guess Smash64 is just *the* university game around my part of the world...

Hell, even my older bro tells me that when he was in uni, he played it every time him and friends came home drunk.
I'd play him too, but he thinks combos are too gay

 

[Superstar]

Eh, whenever I try, I usually fail. It's very hard to get someone to play Smash 64 around here, it's always Brawl and SOMETIMES Melee.

I just don't play, how it works.

Also, NO ONE has an N64 around here [or almost no one].

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Canadian gamers love retro games. I dunno why it's just common. For example, at my bands jamspace we have a tv and a super nintendo.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

Lol when I went with my highschool band to the Idaho International Jazz Festival three years ago, someone brought super mario bros (nes orriginal, the one with minus world). I was the only one who was able to beat it. And I did it on my last life lol

 

[NixxxoN]

Canadian gamers love retro games. I dunno why it's just common. For example, at my bands jamspace we have a tv and a super nintendo.

Lol same in my gaming crew. We have SNES, a Sega Genesis, a N64, and a PS1