Escape to the Surface, Octolings for Smash + splatoon 3 discussion

[Deleted member]

I played the demo and I loved it so I got the game haha

I made some alts instead of doing schoolwork:

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1. Agent 8 (Octoling Magenta) 2. Octoling Boy based on this picture (Peach) 3. Sanitized Octoling (Soda) 4. Salmon Run (Dark Green) 5. Octoling Girl based on this picture(Burgundy) 6. Toni Kensa (Periwinkle) 7. Marina (Order Silver) 8. Pearl (Chaos Gold)

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I played the demo and I loved it so I got the game haha

I made some alts instead of doing schoolwork:

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1. Agent 8 (Octoling Magenta) 2. Octoling Boy based on this picture (Peach) 3. Sanitized Octoling (Soda) 4. Salmon Run (Dark Green) 5. Octoling Girl based on this picture(Burgundy) 6. Toni Kensa (Periwinkle) 7. Marina (Order Silver) 8. Pearl (Chaos Gold)

ooooh these are really creative! i love them!

my only suggestion is that the burgundy is too close to the magenta, and it's not known what toni kensa looks like. maybe Mayo Female and Ketchup Male to tie with Order Female and Chaos Male? First and last Splatfests?

 

[Deleted member]

ooooh these are really creative! i love them!

my only suggestion is that the burgundy is too close to the magenta, and it's not known what toni kensa looks like. maybe Mayo Female and Ketchup Male to tie with Order Female and Chaos Male? First and last Splatfests?

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Thanks for the suggestions!! I made an octoling stock icon a while back and I thought it could use a rework Mayo and Ketchup look a lot better than the previous ones and the Toni Kensa one is based on this picture haha

 

[Rie Sonomura]

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Kinda think we’ll get some news after that...

also, Splatoon 2 and ARMS? They may plan to rerun more Crash Bashes in ARMS/more Splatfests in Splatoon 2...

Most curious that they’re including Splatoon 2 here... not just for the encore Splatfest

what if...

 

[fogbadge]

Most curious that they’re including Splatoon 2 here... not just for the encore Splatfest

what if...

surely itd be a sign if it was japan rather than the us?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

so something dawned on me: in three days, it's the original splatoon's 5th (!) anniversary. Would explain Splatoon 2 being a tourney prize... and could give a reason for Octoling's inclusion...

 

[fogbadge]

so something dawned on me: in three days, it's the original splatoon's 5th (!) anniversary. Would explain Splatoon 2 being a tourney prize... and could give a reason for Octoling's inclusion...

try not to hold on to anniversaries being significant for smash, toad's got his 35th this year and i doubt theyll even blink

 

[Staarih]

Famitsu has Splatoon featured on its cover this week to celebrate the anniversary as well.

Maybe not Smash, but this week could be ideal for any other new Splatoon-news, be it an update or a spin-off or anything. Nothing will probably happen though lol.

Crazy to think how quickly Splatoon rose into one of Nintendo’s top franchises.

 

[fogbadge]

Famitsu has Splatoon featured on its cover this week to celebrate the anniversary as well.

Maybe not Smash, but this week could be ideal for any other new Splatoon-news, be it an update or a spin-off or anything. Nothing will probably happen though lol.

Crazy to think how quickly Splatoon rose into one of Nintendo’s top franchises.

yes whod have thought ink fights between squids would be something everyone would love

 

[Rie Sonomura]

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>Smash Bros and ARMS are prizes
>there’s an Octoling icon (except it’s the enemy ones from 1 & 2’s Hero Modes and not the playable ones from Octo Expansion, but still)

the plot thickens

 

[Guybrush20X6]

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>Smash Bros and ARMS are prizes
>there’s an Octoling icon (except it’s the enemy ones from 1 & 2’s Hero Modes and not the playable ones from Octo Expansion, but still)

the plot thickens

I'm not too sure about Octoling coming to smash but it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility.

But besides that, the dates make me wonder if that's when Nintendo had some events in mind before things went downhill.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

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the octoling mod has been updated, if Octolings become official fighters I can imagine their renders looking like this

 

[Rie Sonomura]

so with the ARMS discussion, ppl have suggested that if Spring Man is our character, his AT could be altered to become Springtron instead when Springo is out on the field.

which gives me an idea - if ATs could be updated... what if the Squid Sisters AT got an update with Octoling to occasionally have Off The Hook perform instead...? I dreamt about it once actually

 

[fogbadge]

so with the ARMS discussion, ppl have suggested that if Spring Man is our character, his AT could be altered to become Springtron instead when Springo is out on the field.

which gives me an idea - if ATs could be updated... what if the Squid Sisters AT got an update with Octoling to occasionally have Off The Hook perform instead...? I dreamt about it once actually

well the difference is that people suggest updating the springman assist out of some kind of perceived necessity which wouldnt be the case with the octolings and squid sisters. off the hook would be far more likely for background characters on a new stage

 

[Rie Sonomura]

MIN MIN IS THE ARMS REP! AND SHES A SPIRIT WHICH MEANS...

SPIRITS NO LONGER DECONFIRM! LET’S GO ELMA!!!

Replace Elma in this sentence with Octolings and YEAH BABY

GIMME YOUR BIGGEST VEEMOS!!

 

[LAA9000]

GIMME YOUR BIGGEST VEEMOS!!

VEEMO
Seriously, I can't make text any bigger than size 26? This is outrageous.
Anyway, this is a big W for us. It's basically become cliche to say this now but the 'Spirits deconfirm' argument was always dumb and I'm glad it's now gone. And Min Min looks very unique.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

VEEMO
Seriously, I can't make text any bigger than size 26? This is outrageous.
Anyway, this is a big W for us. It's basically become cliche to say this now but the 'Spirits deconfirm' argument was always dumb and I'm glad it's now gone. And Min Min looks very unique.

ALSO

we got Callie and Marie costumes

what if they’re saving Pearl (Gunner because Dualies) and Marina (Swordfighter because Brella) costumes for Octoling...?

 

[fogbadge]

is veemo the octoling version of woomy?

 

[Rie Sonomura]

is veemo the octoling version of woomy?

Yup

and it’s debated whether oomi or weyo is the Octoling’s Ngyes

 

[ZealousGamer]

I'll be honest; I'm not a fan of the Callie and Marie Mii costumes. They just look off. But, I'm glad they are getting more attention at least.

 

[fogbadge]

Yup

and it’s debated whether oomi or weyo is the Octoling’s Ngyes

ah, cant say ive ever noticed them saying it but then i never thought the inklings were saying woomy

 

[DelphoxFan97]

Now that we got Callie and Marie Mii costumes, that begs the question. Are we getting Pearl and Marina Mii costumes further down?

If Octoling can't be a fighter, will we get Octoling Mii costumes in the near future? We still have no idea what to expect for Pack 7. We may not know until fall.

They announced Pack 6 would have an ARMS character three months in advance. I'm really hoping one of the upcoming packs will have another Splatoon character.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Some uncanny valley vibes going on here......

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[DelphoxFan97]

If Octoling does become a fighter, here's how Octoling alts and costumes can be implemented in Smash:

-Agent 8 Girl
-Agent 8 Boy
-Agent 8 Girl (with ponytail)
-Agent 8 Boy (with afro)
-Enemy Octoling
-Enemy Octoling (with kelp)
-Sanitized Octoling
-Sanitized Octoling (with kelp)

All for the same character. Octoling would have a variety of alts to choose from.

 

[fogbadge]

If Octoling does become a fighter, here's how Octoling alts and costumes can be implemented in Smash:

-Agent 8 Girl
-Agent 8 Boy
-Agent 8 Girl (with ponytail)
-Agent 8 Boy (with afro)
-Enemy Octoling
-Enemy Octoling (with kelp)
-Sanitized Octoling
-Sanitized Octoling (with kelp)

All for the same character. Octoling would have a variety of alts to choose from.

indeed there so much potential

 

[GoodGrief741]

ALSO

we got Callie and Marie costumes

what if they’re saving Pearl (Gunner because Dualies) and Marina (Swordfighter because Brella) costumes for Octoling...?

I legit got scared when I saw the Callie and Marie costumes because I could have sworn they were already costumed, so when I saw ink I went "ah **** there goes the Octoling". Glad to have been wrong.

 

[DelphoxFan97]

I think what would make a great Octo Expansion stage would be a platform going around the ruined NILS statue. Sometimes, Hyperbombs can be dropped on the stage for players to use to attack. Every few minutes, Pearl can come down to point her Killer Wail to whoever she chooses, and fire with all her might.

"BOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!"

 

[Paraster]

Unpopular opinion: the Callie and Marie Miis are all right. They're only slightly off. Much better than the Miis that modeled the Smash 4 Inkling costumes.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I think what would make a great Octo Expansion stage would be a platform going around the ruined NILS statue. Sometimes, Hyperbombs can be dropped on the stage for players to use to attack. Every few minutes, Pearl can come down to point her Killer Wail to whoever she chooses, and fire with all her might.

"BOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!!!"

I mean the final fest stage (MC. Princess Diaries) does just that so convert that to a Smash stage and bam

 

[fogbadge]

I mean the final fest stage (MC. Princess Diaries) does just that so convert that to a Smash stage and bam

yeah be we already have multi player stage in smash, so they should go for something different like single player or salmon run

 

[DelphoxFan97]

yeah be we already have multi player stage in smash, so they should go for something different like single player or salmon run

I'm not sure if single player mode has enough interesting things to work with to make a stage in Smash, but Salmon Run might work as a stage. The most interesting way to make another Splatoon stage in Smash would be either that, or convert MC. Princess Diaries to a Smash stage. The latter would be especially more suitable if Octoling gets added, with Pearl and Marina Mii costumes, and song tracks including Nasty Majesty, Shark Bytes, Fly Octo Fly, Into the Light, etc.

Now that we know that spirits do not deconfirm fighters, does Octoling have a better chance now? I'm still not so sure. So far, every DLC fighter for this game has been completely unique. No matter how hard I try, I just can't think of a way to make Octoling's moveset that much different from Inkling's. No Echo Fighters have been added outside the base roster.

If two alts are Octoling Girl, two Octoling Boy, two Enemy Octoling, and two Sanitized Octoling, it would use three different IDs for the same character, not four because the regular Enemy Octoling and the Sanitized Octoling would both use the same model with a different color scheme.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I'm not sure if single player mode has enough interesting things to work with to make a stage in Smash, but Salmon Run might work as a stage. The most interesting way to make another Splatoon stage in Smash would be either that, or convert MC. Princess Diaries to a Smash stage. The latter would be especially more suitable if Octoling gets added, with Pearl and Marina Mii costumes, and song tracks including Nasty Majesty, Shark Bytes, Fly Octo Fly, Into the Light, etc.

Now that we know that spirits do not deconfirm fighters, does Octoling have a better chance now? I'm still not so sure. So far, every DLC fighter for this game has been completely unique. No matter how hard I try, I just can't think of a way to make Octoling's moveset that much different from Inkling's. No Echo Fighters have been added outside the base roster.

If two alts are Octoling Girl, two Octoling Boy, two Enemy Octoling, and two Sanitized Octoling, it would use three different IDs for the same character, not four because the regular Enemy Octoling and the Sanitized Octoling would both use the same model with a different color scheme.

Pearl and Marina (OE versions) could also be stage elements for MC. Princess Diaries as aforementioned

as for alts, see @airConditioner 's second mockup. OE Girl and Boy, Sanitized Girl, Salmon Run Boy, Mayo Girl, Ketchup Boy, Order Girl and Chaos Boy. it's PERFECTO

 

[DelphoxFan97]

Pearl and Marina (OE versions) could also be stage elements for MC. Princess Diaries as aforementioned

as for alts, see @airConditioner 's second mockup. OE Girl and Boy, Sanitized Girl, Salmon Run Boy, Mayo Girl, Ketchup Boy, Order Girl and Chaos Boy. it's PERFECTO

I've seen it. Either could work. Though, my idea would have both the playable Octolings from the game, and the enemy Octolings. Nothing against airConditioner's mockup, though. It's still good.

 

[fogbadge]

I'm not sure if single player mode has enough interesting things to work with to make a stage in Smash, but Salmon Run might work as a stage. The most interesting way to make another Splatoon stage in Smash would be either that, or convert MC. Princess Diaries to a Smash stage. The latter would be especially more suitable if Octoling gets added, with Pearl and Marina Mii costumes, and song tracks including Nasty Majesty, Shark Bytes, Fly Octo Fly, Into the Light, etc.

that is single player mode

 

[Rie Sonomura]

I'm not sure if single player mode has enough interesting things to work with to make a stage in Smash, but Salmon Run might work as a stage. The most interesting way to make another Splatoon stage in Smash would be either that, or convert MC. Princess Diaries to a Smash stage. The latter would be especially more suitable if Octoling gets added, with Pearl and Marina Mii costumes, and song tracks including Nasty Majesty, Shark Bytes, Fly Octo Fly, Into the Light, etc.

Now that we know that spirits do not deconfirm fighters, does Octoling have a better chance now? I'm still not so sure. So far, every DLC fighter for this game has been completely unique. No matter how hard I try, I just can't think of a way to make Octoling's moveset that much different from Inkling's. No Echo Fighters have been added outside the base roster.

If two alts are Octoling Girl, two Octoling Boy, two Enemy Octoling, and two Sanitized Octoling, it would use three different IDs for the same character, not four because the regular Enemy Octoling and the Sanitized Octoling would both use the same model with a different color scheme.

As for the second paragraph I do think Octolings have a chance. They can be a lot more unique, using different weapons than the inklings. They can at max share the ink mechanic and up B and still not be considered an Echo.

 

[DelphoxFan97]

There are five remaining packs in DLC Pass 2. All we can do is hope one of them contains a Splatoon character. Don't know if we should count on there being a third DLC pass once Pass 2 gets done. I wouldn't expect it. Smash 3DS/Wii U got seven DLC fighters. Three of them were returning veterans. Ultimate is having at least 11 DLC fighters; 12 if you include Piranha Plant. Once DLC Pass 2 gets done, we will have 88 fighters (including Echos), which means we're getting closer to 100. The 100th fighter would be a big deal. Assist Trophy promotions that should happen include Krystal, Spring Man, Isaac, and of course, Waluigi. If that can't happen in Ultimate, then the next installment for sure.

DLC Pass 1 ended with Byleth, a Fire Emblem character nobody asked for, just like Corrin. Byleth was also the only fighter in Pass 1 who wasn't third party. With Min Min being the start of Pass 2, it's good that we're getting first party characters again. Not that there was anything wrong with the third party characters (I think Spyro is currently the most-requested, alongside Crash). The most well-received addition from Pass 1 was definitely Banjo & Kazooie, as the bird and bear pair was one of the all-time most-requested fighters aside from Ridley and King K. Rool. The most-requested Assist Trophy promotion is Waluigi.

The first party character I want the most is Octoling. Back in the Smash 3DS/Wii U days, I was hoping for Delphox, but my favorite Pokemon never get lucky.

 

[fogbadge]

Assist Trophy promotions that need to happen include Waluigi.

i would dispute need

 

[DelphoxFan97]

i would dispute need

I changed it to 'should'. Sounds like you're not interested in Waluigi. That's okay though.

 

[fogbadge]

I changed it to 'should'. Sounds like you're not interested in Waluigi. That's okay though.

not so much that so much as i think there are other mario characters whove had it worse

 

[DelphoxFan97]

not so much that so much as i think there are other mario characters whove had it worse

Want to name a few examples?

Then, we should get back on topic.