Eruption uses?

[Crezyte]

Late reply I know, but if you watch Sethlon you'll see that he and most good Roys are in the habit of Up-B'ing early because of Flare Blade's forward coverage and priority. It's an incredibly common mix-up Roys use and reading it with Counter can net you a very rewarding punish.

Not Ryo's Roy... he sweet spots 100% of the time. lol

 

[Commander]

Not Ryo's Roy... he sweet spots 100% of the time. lol

Edge hog 100% of the time then.

 

[Thane of Blue Flames]

Edge hog 100% of the time then.

^What he said. Mix-ups are important so you're not beat by the same strategy every time you go off-stage.

 

[Crezyte]

I'n not saying I don't, just saying that the "most good roys part" wasn't completely correct

 

[TylerX5]

Here is how to edge guard Roy.

Step 1:Counter

An experienced roy will know how low Ike's counter will go ( which isn't very far) if not just sweet spot the ledge

 

[Commander]

An experienced roy will know how low Ike's counter will go ( which isn't very far) if not just sweet spot the ledge

Ike's counter is perfectly capable of hitting Roy when he doesn't sweet spot. Roy has 2 options when recovering and thus one mix up. That is either sweet spotting or not. If you read that he isn't and punish with counter you get a free stock. The other event is handled by edge hogging which leads to a free punish.

 

[GP&B]

Depending on the stage, you can also just rocket yourself out to Roy and slap him out with little resistance. Just be very mindful of what his current options are, namely DJ and >B.

 

[BigHairyFart]

I'm kinda new to Ike, but building on the edgegaurding thing with Eruption, I feel that if you send the enemy across the stage, you can Quickdraw to close distance to the ledge quickly, and jump out of it and start Eruption in the air. Jumping out of QD gives you much more distance if you want, and you can also drift while charging Eruption in the air so that you land at the perfect spot on the ledge.

 

[Commander]

I'm kinda new to Ike, but building on the edgegaurding thing with Eruption, I feel that if you send the enemy across the stage, you can Quickdraw to close distance to the ledge quickly, and jump out of it and start Eruption in the air. Jumping out of QD gives you much more distance if you want, and you can also drift while charging Eruption in the air so that you land at the perfect spot on the ledge.

There is no point in doing that unless you want to be an extremely flashy player and spike them out of the air with it. I've tried, it doesn't work ever. I still go for it sometimes but never in tourney.

 

[BigHairyFart]

There is no point in doing that unless you want to be an extremely flashy player and spike them out of the air with it. I've tried, it doesn't work ever. I still go for it sometimes but never in tourney.

I'm just saying if you happen to launch them so that they go off the opposite end of the stage, AND their recover is easily spike-able(spacies, Ness/Lucas, for example), then it's just an option that's there. Not saying it's totally useful/viable, but it is there.