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Elevating from Casual to Competitive Play?

Oooopz

Smash Rookie
Joined
Aug 12, 2013
Messages
2
Hi guys. I recently posted a thread about the same thing in the Melee forum, and I decided that I'd like to try to up my skill in both games. So if you could just tell me if I'm on the right track for advanced techniques to learn and strategies for improvement, that'd be great. Thanks!

The advanced techs I've found that I think I'm going to work on perfecting are
- SHFF
- Shield Grab
-Edgehogging
-Reverse aerial rush
-Pivot grabbing
-Short hopping/fast falling

Am I missing anything crucial? any recommendations to add?

Also, where would I go on these forums to arrange WiFi battles? For now I was thinking of gaining skill with CPU's and my casual friends, but in the future I'd like to take on other competitive smashers via WiFi

Thanks!
 

Frogman751

Smash Cadet
Joined
Jun 16, 2010
Messages
43
Location
Buffalo, New York
Something youre going to have to realize now is that melee and brawl are similar in a lot of ways but they are also very different in a lot of ways. To start wifi is awful, there is drastic lag on your inputs when you play online, making the online metagame much different from the offline, lagless, metagame. So dont play wifi, find people to play with in real life. I also hope you know that if you play melee on a widescreen tv your inputs will lag so dont do that, and if you dont have component cables for your wii brawl will lag on a widescreen tv. Youre the safest playing on a crt tv, almost 100% of the time there is no lag. Back to the whole playing both games thing. Brawl is going to be much easier to pick up than melee will be, for brawl is a much less technical game. Brawl is rather slow compared to melee. Also a lot of technical advanced techniques that existed in melee didnt carry over to brawl, things such as wavedashing, jump cancel grabs, crouching out of dash, shielddashing, moonwalking, shai dropping, waveshining, and the biggest one that got taken out was L - Canceling which made SHFFLing possible. Although that was a robust list those are not the only existing Advanced Techniques that exist in melee that didnt carry over to brawl. Some generalizations about differences between the games exist as well. One thing is brawl is a much more defensive game than melee is. In brawl shield stun is much lower than than shield stun in melee. The shield stun is so low in brawl that it actually gives the defender the advantage most of the time when they get attacked in shield. Also hitstun in brawl is much lower than melee, meaning that there are very few true combos unless your comboing someone at a low percent, or you could just play metaknight and have plenty of true combos. The ledge acts very differently in brawl than it does in melee. In brawl you dont grab the ledge...the ledge grabs you, meaning that every character can grab the ledge facing away from it, up b's auto sweetspot, and the range at which your character can grab the ledge has been extended. Lastly the physics are very different from brawl to melee. In brawl the physics are much floatier, characters live much longer in general than characters live in melee which gave birth to the fact that in the competitive brawl ruleset you play 3 stocks while in melee you play 4 stocks. Idk im going to stop here and let me know if you have questions or whatever.
 

nat pagle

Smash Ace
Joined
Jul 18, 2013
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507
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As Frog said, Brawl is a lot easier to pick up than Melee. You don't have to worry about incorporating wavedashing, L cancelling, SHFFL, etc. And don't use wifi, it's incredibly slow.

I'd suggest looking up guides for your individual character, as there's a lot of diversity in Brawl's roster.
 
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If you're just beginning, WiFi isn't a bad place to practice, you just have to approach it with a different focus. Your tech skill won't matter, it's all about learning how to play against a variety of different people. Keyword there is learning, you gotta understand that you're not there to win. You're only there to learn. If you want to win, go to an offline tournament. WiFi can't be taken seriously enough competitively, and is mainly used as prep for offline tournaments. An offline tournament is where the true competition lies, so you should prepare for that.

It's best if you have a friend who plays the game competitively mentor you and keep you interested in the game. If you don't have one yet, go to a tournament and be social. Tell them you're new and you're interested in entering tournaments. Smashers love that, and 99.9% of the time will try to help in some way. You also said that you had some casual friends you play with. Try getting them involved too!

Brawl and Melee are very different like other people above me have said. If you have a specific character you want to learn, look around here for that character's forum and ask questions. If they are general questions, you can continue asking here. Other than that, keep on reading up on some of the stickies we have on SWF, but most of all, just have fun with it.
 
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