Elements in Brawl?

[ricey09]

well accoording to recent speculation to Brawl Central along with sticker power up potential, I came to thinking about elements in brawl. Though Squirtle is listed as a light character and ivysaur medium, ivysuar get's KO'd by mario by a noticable amount less. It brought me wondering, if maybe some sort of elemental property played a role? (Fire being effective against grass but not water). *shrugs* not much evidence, just a thought.

 

[Your Hero]

Pretty smart thinking, I would have never guessed that, and I play pokemon a lot :\.

It would make sense as to why ivysaur was k.oed when squirtle wasn't. Possibly it's a PT thing only?

 

[Cerrus]

That would make sense being as how two of Olimar's pikmin are imbued with elemental properties (red: fire yellow:electric) That would add a considerable amount of pro's and con's for PT

 

[JayceMJ]

That would be a nail in the coffin of SSBB having the possibility of being seriously considered for tournament play.

 

[Cerrus]

True... that would obliterate any balance that characters such as PT or Olimar had

 

[Zek]

I certainly hope not. That would be really stupid for balance.

 

[sonic130]

Don't forget that the pokemon use stamina. I don't think it has anything to do with an element thing (though I could be wrong), but I just bet Ivysaur was used longer, therefore lost more stamina causing him to be hit back farther. Just a thought.

 

[DarkSpidey13]

That would be a nail in the coffin of SSBB having the possibility of being seriously considered for tournament play.

True... that would obliterate any balance that characters such as PT or Olimar had

are you kidding? since two characters have an added element of depth to them you think they won't be tourney-legal? that's ridiculous. it just means that players who use these characters have something else to think about when they use them.

 

[JayceMJ]

are you kidding? since two characters have an added element of depth to them you think they won't be tourney-legal? that's ridiculous. it just means that players who use these characters have something else to think about when they use them.

Depends on if it effects every character. For instance if Mario is always fire and Peach is always plant type then you have a problem. Peach can never change to account for Mario's advantage over her. If it's just Olimar, PT and other characters like that that have elements added to their attacks and defense that's well and fine (and gives them a neat thing to think about). But if it's on everyone, such as the example I gave, then it's a completely idiotic addition to the game. For a good example about how stupid elements in one character fighters is play JUS with one character.

 

[ArgentStew]

That would be a nail in the coffin of SSBB having the possibility of being seriously considered for tournament play.

I think you're exaggerating a little bit... They do try to balance such element systems after all... :/

Anyway, I have to believe that, if this is true, it may only extend to characters that can swap the element of their abilities or active character on demand...

 

[verditude]

How I think this will be implemented

I was thinking of the possibility of this ever since the sticker power up update, where stickers boosted the power of fire based attacks, resistance to slashes, etc. I thought they might implement this for PT's Pokemon, and maybe the other Pokes in the game.

I think only the Pokemon have bodily weaknesses and resistances, but others' attacks will be strong or weak against the Pokemon depending on the attack's type. This may mean that Charizard is lighter than we think as well, because he got hit with a fire attack, which he should resist. However, he may be neutral to his own type in Smash.

The idea that random non-Pokemon characters would be assigned a Pokemon type is far-fetched at best. I don't think we have to worry about this being a balancing issue.

The Pikmin stuff (electric resistant yellow Pikmin) makes me think that this elemental system may extend to Pikachu, as well as Lucario and possibly Jigglypuff. Pikachu may have an innate advantage over Squirtle and Charizard if this is the case. I don't know how it would apply to Lucario and Jiggs, since they are weak to Fighting type attacks, which may be a LOT of moves.

 

[Cubelarooso]

Search first:
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=139050

 

[Rajun Cajun]

I had this exact same idea as soon as I read that Brawl Central update! I thought I was crazy so I didn't mention it. I really doubt that Pokemon fatigue enters into the equation though because the guys who did all the testing for this weight list aren't idiots, and there's a noticeable change when Pokemon get tired. If this type thing really does exist, it would be interesting to watch two PTs do battle. You start as a random pokemon, and don't they get more tired if you switch them out too fast as well? It seems like they'd be reduced to trying to fight each other with the same pokemon.

 

[The Noob Legend]

I thought the same thing, except with the elements such as Fire, Water, etc.

Like how one Pikmin has an advantage over one character and not another.
For example,

Red Pikmin cannot defeat Squirtle as easily because of his Water element, which totally contradicts the red pikmin.

The weight factor, of course was like that in Melee as well.
With Pichu especially.

 

[Blu-ninja]

hopefully not.


ile problably only level up my ike to lv.7 so...he'll be pretty week against normal types.