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That was a personal preference, not a requirement.
thebluedeath1000
Smash Champion
I have to agree with gamer, not many students at all take homework as seriously as schoolwork as they have already done it enough for one day..
Its just a task and no learning with it, its not that important.
Its just a task and no learning with it, its not that important.
I had a long post, but I accidentally deleted it... again.
Well, to sum it up, homework does help. My chemistry class actually has asked for homework so there is clearly learning with it.
"Oh, and remove homework. I always hated homework. What's the point of going to school if I have to take it home with me."
That is an opinion. The vast majority of people (at least that I have encountered) feel that homework is very helpful, as illustrated in the case of my chem class. I myself find that without it, class periods would probably have to be DOUBLED to learn the same amount. I personally would like a break before I hit the books again, and would not like a school day that lasts until 6.
With the majority using homework well, and the US being democratic, I think that homework should be implemented.
"Its just a task and no learning with it, its not that important."
I would have agreed before high school. It used to be preperation for high school, although I find that concept pretty stupid (why don't we prepare for the preparation?). Once you hit calculus you will see what I'm talking about (unless you have already... in that case I dont know what to say, heh).
Well, to sum it up, homework does help. My chemistry class actually has asked for homework so there is clearly learning with it.
"Oh, and remove homework. I always hated homework. What's the point of going to school if I have to take it home with me."
That is an opinion. The vast majority of people (at least that I have encountered) feel that homework is very helpful, as illustrated in the case of my chem class. I myself find that without it, class periods would probably have to be DOUBLED to learn the same amount. I personally would like a break before I hit the books again, and would not like a school day that lasts until 6.
With the majority using homework well, and the US being democratic, I think that homework should be implemented.
"Its just a task and no learning with it, its not that important."
I would have agreed before high school. It used to be preperation for high school, although I find that concept pretty stupid (why don't we prepare for the preparation?). Once you hit calculus you will see what I'm talking about (unless you have already... in that case I dont know what to say, heh).
Yes, I've already had and passed Calculus. And in college I'm paying for the class time! So why would I want shorter class time. Professors are already some of the highest payed individuals, why would I pay more money for less class? Homework is a cop out. If I wanted to learn it by myself on my own I'd just buy the textbook and read it at home.
dr.neo
Smash Champion
Homework is for practice. Studying is a type of homework. If you never study and never practice what you are doing then you will not make sufficient grades on tests, and quizzes.
thebluedeath1000
Smash Champion
Wrong Dr Neo. I have.
And I know many others that have. But it really depends on how you define study...if you mean looking over once in awhile, yes..if you mean hitting the books hard, no.
And I know many others that have. But it really depends on how you define study...if you mean looking over once in awhile, yes..if you mean hitting the books hard, no.
Frozenserpent
Smash Journeyman
Homework's great for practicing. I took this differential equations class at community college, and, being the lazy senior i am, I didn't buy a textbook or show up for classes. Instead, before we take a test or quiz, i have my friend who went to class to explain to tell me everything we need to know. Although I might know how to solve a particular problem in theory, I have never actually solved one before I took the test. The result? I end up making a huge number of stupid mistakes, or I spontaneously forget a step and i spend a long time trying to rediscover it. Lack of practice leads to a much weaker grasp of the subject, especially later on.
There are tangible benefits of having homework. You can't expect to be practicing math problems in class besides for a couple. Unfortunately, many teachers give busywork homework, which is mostly a waste of time.
There are tangible benefits of having homework. You can't expect to be practicing math problems in class besides for a couple. Unfortunately, many teachers give busywork homework, which is mostly a waste of time.
Pustulio
Smash Ace
Really I think that the problems in a school system are percieved by what people don't like personally alot of times. I don't see any issue in school systems.
I thought I'd add that in Wyoming corporal punishment is still legal for teachers so people have gotten paddled by the vice principal before even by teachers.
I thought I'd add that in Wyoming corporal punishment is still legal for teachers so people have gotten paddled by the vice principal before even by teachers.
Going to class day after day is constant practice and study.
dr.neo
Smash Champion
Maybe for some people but a lot of people don't excel as fast as others. Its just like sports, you can go to practice and be a ok athlete. If you really want to be good then you'll practice on your own.
Most of the time, homework is to do the actual problems while the class is for explaining how to do the problem, at least in math and science and maybe language (though not so much). What I am saying is that it would be a waste of longer classes and the teacher's time to just have people silently doing math problems. In addition to that, the average student's attention span, or how long he or she can pay attention in class, is roughly 45 minutes (according to my math teacher- he has been teaching for decades). I myself have experienced classes 45 minutes long and classes 1 hour and 20 minutes long. I find the 45 minute shorter classes to make the best use of the time. Homework allows for that break to regain one's attention span, and therefore makes you time better spent. THis practice has to be done anyway.
Just another small article for everyone to chew over.. here is an article from Time Magazine that covers more of the recent blunders of the No Child Left Behind act and how they plan on changing things.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1625192,00.html
Here you go room
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1625192,00.html
Here you go room
Skylink
Smash Lord
Personally, I don't have a lot of trouble taking tests, even high pressure state standardized tests. Most of the time I don't do my homework, I rarely study, but in class, all we do is review, reteach, go over things more, (in science
do labs, and talk about how such and such works. That's almost all we do in class, so I usually have no trouble on tests. Surprisingly, however, almost everyone I know complains about how hard they are, and they are the ones who always turn in their homework.
I think the key is that if it is possible for students to absorb knowledge so well in minimal amounts of time and retain it well without even extra practice at home, then this opens whole new opportunities for schools. I know a few people at my school like this too. The only problem is the way the knowledge is taken.
When I listen to people talk about how they hate tests, I also ask how a normal class period goes for them, and they talk about their teacher's personality, how cool they think they are, funny things people said, embarrassing moments of being called on and not knowing what was going on, and what they were thinking about while the teacher was talking at the class.
The main problem here, is that schools don't have an effective way of keeping the class's attention, or at least, keeping it enough.
do labs, and talk about how such and such works. That's almost all we do in class, so I usually have no trouble on tests. Surprisingly, however, almost everyone I know complains about how hard they are, and they are the ones who always turn in their homework.I think the key is that if it is possible for students to absorb knowledge so well in minimal amounts of time and retain it well without even extra practice at home, then this opens whole new opportunities for schools. I know a few people at my school like this too. The only problem is the way the knowledge is taken.
When I listen to people talk about how they hate tests, I also ask how a normal class period goes for them, and they talk about their teacher's personality, how cool they think they are, funny things people said, embarrassing moments of being called on and not knowing what was going on, and what they were thinking about while the teacher was talking at the class.
The main problem here, is that schools don't have an effective way of keeping the class's attention, or at least, keeping it enough.
Me14k
Smash Lord
While money would definitly help, as many of you pointed out you didnt even have the basics like paper. That is pretty disgusting.
I think the solution to a higher education is not necessarly a money problem. I think that our main problem is that we have poor teachers. I had a few teachers that often wouldnt teach us during class.
- In my english class the first half of the period was devoted to jokes and fooling around. In my spanish class the week before the final we didnt discuss spanish...we watched movies and had end of the year parties.
-Meanwhile in my other classes (Biology and Math) we worked hard through out the year and up to the final.
Big surprize.. the day before the final in my english class..my teacher told us that we didnt go through grammer and the poetry unit. In spanish after the day of the final my teacher wasnt aware that we were supposed to know a certain word tense. On my English and spanish finals I got a c+. On my Bio final I got a-, on math I got .
Dont think I am saying money is not a problem, but I think we need to solve the problem at start.
~Whats the point of paper if you dont have a teacher to teach you how to write?
I think the solution to a higher education is not necessarly a money problem. I think that our main problem is that we have poor teachers. I had a few teachers that often wouldnt teach us during class.
- In my english class the first half of the period was devoted to jokes and fooling around. In my spanish class the week before the final we didnt discuss spanish...we watched movies and had end of the year parties.
-Meanwhile in my other classes (Biology and Math) we worked hard through out the year and up to the final.
Big surprize.. the day before the final in my english class..my teacher told us that we didnt go through grammer and the poetry unit. In spanish after the day of the final my teacher wasnt aware that we were supposed to know a certain word tense. On my English and spanish finals I got a c+. On my Bio final I got a-, on math I got .
Dont think I am saying money is not a problem, but I think we need to solve the problem at start.
~Whats the point of paper if you dont have a teacher to teach you how to write?
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