Edge Tech

[Driz]

Sry to say I don't main Marth but my mains recently learned to edge tech, this impressed my friend and he asked me to make a post basically asking at about which point of Marth's Up+B do you hit L/R to tech an attack??? I do secondary Marth so overall this will benefit both of us, thanks for the help guys

 

[Dark Sonic]

At the very beginning of the up B is when you fully compress L or R to tech. You may want to have it pressed halfway down before you start the up b so that you don't have that far to go. Marth's Up B is very fast so you can easily tech just by pressing L in it's starting animation. Try not to hold up when your techning though. If you tech jump you will have to up B immediatly so that you don't go too far away from the stage and die. And even though you'll live if you Up B fast enough you'll be left completely vulnerable because you'll be very high in the air without being able to do anything.

 

[Cactuar]

It doesn't have to be at the beginning of the upb. As long as you press L or R in the 20 frame gap before getting hit, you should tech. If you wall jump tech by accident, you can do a bair immediately and change your momentum enough that you can still sweet spot the ledge coming back down.

 

[UMBC Super Smasher]

Very nice info, Cactuar. Approximately how long is 20 frames? I believe smash shows 30 fps, so 20 frames is .666 seconds? That seems like a long time. I only occasionally pull off the edge tech, and I know it is considered something very difficult to do. If there is so much time to hit L/R, what makes edge teching so difficult?

Also, does the 20 frame window before getting hit apply to all kinds of teching, like if an opponent throws me at a wall and I tech it, or if I am falling to the ground and I tech to get up?

 

[ArcNatural]

Yes the 20 frame window applies to all techs. This is why often when you miss your first tech you can't tech again for a bit, since you have to wait a 20 frame time period before you can attempt to tech again.

 

[pdk]

Yes the 20 frame window applies to all techs. This is why often when you miss your first tech you can't tech again for a bit, since you have to wait a 20 frame time period before you can attempt to tech again.

isn't that period 40 frames?

 

[Dark Sonic]

Yes if you miss a tech you'll have to wait 40 frames before you can successfuly tech again.
Thanks for the tip about doing the bair.

 

[Schweppes]

Smash plays at 60 fps, so the window for pressing L/R is 1/3 of a second before getting hit.

 

[Driz]

I appreciate the anwsers but still kinda confused, I'm not one for knowing alot about frames so if Marth is hit as he reaches approximately when do I hit L/R to tech it at what point of the up+b do I hit it to tech?

 

[thebluedeath1000]

I usually hit it as soon as I see him fly upwards in his up B motion.

 

[FrostByte]

I'm pretty sure the startup to peak of Marth's up B is less than 20 frames. So anywhere within the dolphin slash animation.

 

[metroid1117]

You can edgetech if you press L or R 20 frames (1/3rd of a second) before you get hit while touching a surface. Marth's up+B is MUCH shorter than 1/3rd of a second if you're trying to sweetspot, so just press L or R pretty much any time during the up+B; it doesn't matter since it's so quick.

 

[Gian]

It doesn't have to be at the beginning of the upb. As long as you press L or R in the 20 frame gap before getting hit, you should tech. If you wall jump tech by accident, you can do a bair immediately and change your momentum enough that you can still sweet spot the ledge coming back down.

OMFG!! thank u very much, i hate it when i accidentaly wall tech jump and die or up B again to get *****... this bair thing is awesome :D