"Easiest Character"

[RaginAzn]

Hi, I'm wanting to know who is the "easiest" character in melee is. Melee in general is a very hard game and of course some characters are harder than others. I would like to know what YOUR opinion on the easiest character is. Please click on the strawpoll and vote http://strawpoll.me/6093261

 

[BlueX]

Marth because he is easy to play for a beginner and is actually a very good character to learn the fundamentals of Melee. However he can be very master him and will take time to understand him more.

 

[GenNyan]

Every character is hard AF. Nobody can pick up a character and instantly win without a metric ton of work.

 

[RaginAzn]

Every character is hard AF. Nobody can pick up a character and instantly win without a metric ton of work.

Obviously, but its also obvious that some characters are harder than other characters.

 

[GenNyan]

Obviously, but its also obvious that some characters are harder than other characters.

But my point was that I do not think that some characters are harder than others. Unless we're going by "hardest to win a tournament with," In which case it would just be the tier list.

 

[RaginAzn]

But my point was that I do not think that some characters are harder than others. Unless we're going by "hardest to win a tournament with," In which case it would just be the tier list.

Ok, I see where your getting here but take my example, with Fox, you have to work so hard to get fox on point, doing techs don't others don't have ex: multishining, shine grab. Now obviously this gives the Fox an advantage. But what if Fox and a Sheik knew the same amount of tech? Lets just say purely L-canceling and Wavedashing and other basics, do you not think Sheik will have an easier time?

 

[GenNyan]

Ok, I see where your getting here but take my example, with Fox, you have to work so hard to get fox on point, doing techs don't others don't have ex: multishining, shine grab. Now obviously this gives the Fox an advantage. But what if Fox and a Sheik knew the same amount of tech? Lets just say purely L-canceling and Wavedashing and other basics, do you not think Sheik will have an easier time?

No, because melee is much more than just tech. Even with immaculate spacing and great mind games, sheik is still disadvantaged to fox and needs to work just as hard for the win. Fox might take longer to learn at first, however time =/= difficulty.

 

[RaginAzn]

No, because melee is much more than just tech. Even with immaculate spacing and great mind games, sheik is still disadvantaged to fox and needs to work just as hard for the win. Fox might take longer to learn at first, however time =/= difficulty.

Your basically saying fox becomes the easiest character overtime.

 

[GenNyan]

Your basically saying fox becomes the easiest character overtime.

Thats one way to look at it. Using that logic results in "easiest character" becoming the tier list, like I said previously.

 

[RaginAzn]

Thats one way to look at it. Using that logic results in "easiest character" becoming the tier list, like I said previously.

Yes but players around that level don't put as much work as foxes do to get where they are.

 

[GenNyan]

Yes but players around that level don't put as much work as foxes do to get where they are.

You never clarified what level of play that you were talking about so I assumed that you meant the highest level.

 

[EPsilon933]

Mid level: Peach

All Peach needs to know are crouch cancel down smash, turnips, and floats. She has huge hit boxes which helps her spacing game really well by giving her good priority. She can cause a lot of trades against opponents. She has 1 of the best CCs in the game and by far the best dsmash, so combine the 2 and you have something super good with 0 skill needed. Turnips annoyingly take up space. Floats have 4 frames of landing lag which make them almost unpunishable


Melee isn't hard perfectly in general. It's the easiest fighting game to learn. Aside from MK, it's basically the only fighting game that casuals ever play. Smash is a fighting game series about movement, which is very intuitive to learn. At a competitive level, the game gets difficult, but doesn't everything get difficult at a competitive level?

 

[Massive]

Shiek.

Shiek has the most straightforward meta for a new player, and while some of her neutral options get a bit more complicated at higher levels she is still a very viable character with loads of options and few bad matchups.

 

[CptJPuff]

Fox.

There's so much content here on the Melee forums to help you learn "x character". The majority of it here is Fox, because so much of the meta revolves around him. With so much content detailing nearly every aspect of Fox available here, he's bound to be the easiest to learn.

 

[Flippy Flippersen]

Originally I thought fox cause no bad matchups and his neutral/killoptions work well enough on enough characters to not get cheesed by matchup unfamiliarity that easily. I changed my mind though, fox is very easy to mess up and by extention is very likely to get upset by someone who just has a punishgame. For just 1,2 or even 3 sets this isn't an issue, if you're at a stacked tournament and theoretically any of your rounds to the finals can be your end you are a lot more drained than someone who uses less technically demanding characters. So atm I think the easiest thing to play is fox and some less frail/technical toptier secondary.

Single character would probably be sheik cause she's not technically demanding doesn't die that easy and is fast enough to not get camped forever.

 

[Sutekh]

But my point was that I do not think that some characters are harder than others. Unless we're going by "hardest to win a tournament with," In which case it would just be the tier list.

That's absurd, some characters are more definitely harder to play well than others. Look at Sheik vs Yoshi for example. Sheik is a character that almost anyone can pick up and play decently, as all of her moves string together pretty naturally. Most of her aerials autocancel, and she has a lot of easy set ups and into kill moves. On the other hand Yoshi is incredibly easy to punish, and he's very slow and clunky without a lot of experience. There's definitely a difference in the ease of access to different characters in the cast.

To answer the OP's question, I'd say Sheik is the easiest to pick up because of the reasons I stated above. Marth is probably a close second, but he's a lot harder to bridge the gap into mid-level play than Sheik imo, because he's punished really hard off of simple mistakes or when he tries to over-commit.

Fox is arguably the best character in the game, but I think he's far from the easiest. Fox relies heavily on using his speed to overwhelm the opponent, and he's easy to lose control of because of that. And being a fast-faller, he's combo bait for pretty much any character.

 

[GenNyan]

That's absurd, some characters are more definitely harder to play well than others. Look at Sheik vs Yoshi for example. Sheik is a character that almost anyone can pick up and play decently, as all of her moves string together pretty naturally. Most of her aerials autocancel, and she has a lot of easy set ups and into kill moves. On the other hand Yoshi is incredibly easy to punish, and he's very slow and clunky without a lot of experience. There's definitely a difference in the ease of access to different characters in the cast.

To answer the OP's question, I'd say Sheik is the easiest to pick up because of the reasons I stated above. Marth is probably a close second, but he's a lot harder to bridge the gap into mid-level play than Sheik imo, because he's punished really hard off of simple mistakes or when he tries to over-commit.

Fox is arguably the best character in the game, but I think he's far from the easiest. Fox relies heavily on using his speed to overwhelm the opponent, and he's easy to lose control of because of that. And being a fast-faller, he's combo bait for pretty much any character.

It depends on the metric you use to define "difficulty." I was going off ease of use at the highest level of play after everybody has already poured thousands of hours into their character.

 

[Dolla Pills]

To be perfectly honest I don't think Fox is that hard, and the reason he seems hard is because if you make a misjudgment in neutral than you might get grabbed and killed. It's not that you made a technical error, it's just your judgement was lacking. As far as his tech skill goes, it seems hard but after a little bit of time it really isn't, and he has a lot of basic yet very effective combo trees that don't require much work. So really I don't get why everyone thinks Fox is a super hard character to use

 

[RaginAzn]

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[hi im dennis]

At a technical level, jigglypuff, at a gameplay level, sheik.

 

[MurphyPrime]

Easiest to initially be good has to do with technical skill required and easy to abuse mechanics. So Peach probably. But beyond initial (scrub) level, tier list basically.