Dthrow--> RAR Bair?

[Watermarlon]

So I'm watching PAX South and Megafox is playing Anti and I see him going for down throw into rar bair, but it isn't connecting too much. I was wondering if this was consistent enough to be a strong option for fox. Maybe it works on some characters better than others?

 

[potter5656]

this only works if the other player has bad d.i seeing how anti is anti no wonder it does not connect

 

[Watermarlon]

this only works if the other player has bad d.i seeing how anti is anti no wonder it does not connect

Ah I see. So it is in the same boat as dthrow fair?

 

[luke_atyeo]

Ah I see. So it is in the same boat as dthrow fair?

think of it more like a paper scissors rock kinda thing.

you downthrow
your opponent chooses not to DI? You get a Fair
Your opponent chooses to DI in? You get an Uair
Your opponent chooses to DI out? You get a Bair

^ not quite always like that, but in general its something like that.

Dthrow to RAR Bair is pretty much safe for fox to throw out without having to worry about getting hit, so in the early stages of a set you can just go for it and see what your opponent does, typically you'll see these sorts of setups start working more and more when watching these top players as a set progresses and they start figuring out their opponents habits and start picking the right options. Anti being a top player himself will also be aware of this and will be trying hard to not be predictable so sometimes you wont see the options work at all.

And I think, but I'm not 100% sure, that on some characters at specific percents a down throw can true combo to a RAR Bair, but those situations wouldn't be super common, and sometimes a player might just be throwing it out just in case it does true combo, or in case the opponent is lazy and doesn't bother to DI properly.

 

[Watermarlon]

think of it more like a paper scissors rock kinda thing.

you downthrow
your opponent chooses not to DI? You get a Fair
Your opponent chooses to DI in? You get an Uair
Your opponent chooses to DI out? You get a Bair

^ not quite always like that, but in general its something like that.

Dthrow to RAR Bair is pretty much safe for fox to throw out without having to worry about getting hit, so in the early stages of a set you can just go for it and see what your opponent does, typically you'll see these sorts of setups start working more and more when watching these top players as a set progresses and they start figuring out their opponents habits and start picking the right options. Anti being a top player himself will also be aware of this and will be trying hard to not be predictable so sometimes you wont see the options work at all.

And I think, but I'm not 100% sure, that on some characters at specific percents a down throw can true combo to a RAR Bair, but those situations wouldn't be super common, and sometimes a player might just be throwing it out just in case it does true combo, or in case the opponent is lazy and doesn't bother to DI properly.

I see, thanks for this!

 

[SolarisX]

Noob question, but what does RAR stand for? I'm assuming it has something to do with quickly turning around before jumping and doing a back air, but I want to know the full abbreviation

 

[Justinian]

Noob question, but what does RAR stand for? I'm assuming it has something to do with quickly turning around before jumping and doing a back air, but I want to know the full abbreviation

RAR stands for reverse aerial rush. It allows you to do an aerial facing the opposite direction out of a dash. To do it with a Fox bair, while running, flick backwards, jump before the turnaround slide animation starts, and then input a bair. If you do it with the C-stick, hold in the direction you originally dashed with the control stick while inputting the bair to maintain your momentum.

This works with all aerials, but is particularly useful with bairs, as well as aerials like Pika's up air, which starts faster in the back, or Meta Knight's nair, which has more disjoint in the back.

 

[SolarisX]

RAR stands for reverse aerial rush. It allows you to do an aerial facing the opposite direction out of a dash. To do it with a Fox bair, while running, flick backwards, jump before the turnaround slide animation starts, and then input a bair. If you do it with the C-stick, hold in the direction you originally dashed with the control stick while inputting the bair to maintain your momentum.

This works with all aerials, but is particularly useful with bairs, as well as aerials like Pika's up air, which starts faster in the back, or Meta Knight's nair, which has more disjoint in the back.

Ah ok thanks!