Drumset Options?

[Miamisportsfan45]

My goal in life is to own my own record label. A business plan I've always had an interest in, and always loved. Since music is basically my life, I want it to become my life literally.

Anyway, with that being said... The other day I was at Guitar Center (Greatest store in the world! Along with stores like Hotopic and Spencer's) and I was playing drums. I've always thought of drums as being the largest part of the band. In my eyes. I just honestly love drums. lol. But I want to buy my own set, and I'm not sure what ALL of my options are.

Personally, I think Tama's sound the best. But also, I think that sounds could be adjusted with electronic ones and sound could be great with an amp.

But again, discussion on different drumsets is what this topic for. So... Discuss?

 

[Maniclysane]

All drums sound good when you put them through speakers.

Just buy a cheap drum set off craigslist. There's really not much to say.

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

All drumsets can be put through speakers? I never knew that... Do you mean all electronic ones could be put through speakers? Or all drums in general?

 

[meatpopsicle]

You can mic your acoustic drum set, or they can be electronic. So any kind of drum set really. Electronic drum kits might be good if you want to be able to play whenever, and they're less cumbersome. But obviously if you want the authentic feel acoustic's the way to go. Not sure about brands though... I'd go with what Maniclysane said-- look for something off craigslist or maybe websites like ebay, zzsounds, musiciansfriend. Generally waaaay better deals than stores like Guitar Center. But start with craigslist for sure.

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

You can mic your acoustic drum set, or they can be electronic. So any kind of drum set really. Electronic drum kits might be good if you want to be able to play whenever, and they're less cumbersome. But obviously if you want the authentic feel acoustic's the way to go. Not sure about brands though... I'd go with what Maniclysane said-- look for something off craigslist or maybe websites like ebay, zzsounds, musiciansfriend. Generally waaaay better deals than stores like Guitar Center. But start with craigslist for sure.

That's not a bad idea. Thanks. Makes sense to me. haha. I'm still unsure as to what set I'd like to get most though. Not many bands use electronic drums... But they'd probably be the best option.

 

[BrutalXSpawn]

Depends on what your looking for in a drum set,Id say either Tama or Pearl.

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

Depends on what your looking for in a drum set,Id say either Tama or Pearl.

So then no electronic drums recomended?

 

[BrutalXSpawn]

Electric drums are set up easier but I prefer regular drums.

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

Electric drums are set up easier but I prefer regular drums.

Well, yeah, of course. I agree with that and understand that completely. But, the sound gets good after hooking it up to an amp. You could take advantage of it being loud or personal. So... I mean... You don't piss off your roomate or neighbors.

 

[the melon!!!!!]

My suggestions regarding brand:

Acoustic: Pearl, Tama, ddrum (my personal fave, cuz even the cheapies are good quality), Taye
Electronic: Roland, Alesis


Yes, you can mic an acoustic set, and you can even use triggers on them to mix up sounds and even things out if you really wanted. Personally, I'd go with the mic'd acoustic, electronic just seems a bit awkward, even if it's only for recording.

What do you have in mind when it comes to the actual setup of the set? Are we talking the whole over-the-top metal setup with an 8-piece shell set and like 15 different cymbals, or the simple 4-piece with 1 or 2 crashes, a ride, and hihats?

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

My suggestions regarding brand:

Acoustic: Pearl, Tama, ddrum (my personal fave, cuz even the cheapies are good quality), Taye
Electronic: Roland, Alesis


Yes, you can mic an acoustic set, and you can even use triggers on them to mix up sounds and even things out if you really wanted. Personally, I'd go with the mic'd acoustic, electronic just seems a bit awkward, even if it's only for recording.

What do you have in mind when it comes to the actual setup of the set? Are we talking the whole over-the-top metal setup with an 8-piece shell set and like 15 different cymbals, or the simple 4-piece with 1 or 2 crashes, a ride, and hihats?

Just a workable and manageable set for now, to start out at low cost expense. I don't want electronic drums, but it's basically the only way I can get drums and actually use them at any time of the day to practice...

 

[CRASHiC]

If you looking to get some practice for when you own a record label, it doesn't matter all too much really. Most drummers these days are so chopped and edited that it might as well be a drum machine. Most producers have them play one note in the drum line, and then they layer it themselves, so a super high quality drum set isn't going to make that bit of a difference. Get yourself a decent, non-expensive drum set and find some production softwear. That'll be the best way to prepare for being owning an actual recording studio.

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

If you looking to get some practice for when you own a record label, it doesn't matter all too much really. Most drummers these days are so chopped and edited that it might as well be a drum machine. Most producers have them play one note in the drum line, and then they layer it themselves, so a super high quality drum set isn't going to make that bit of a difference. Get yourself a decent, non-expensive drum set and find some production softwear. That'll be the best way to prepare for being owning an actual recording studio.

I want a drumset just because I love music, and want to learn instruments. Nothing to really do with label purposes. lol. I just don't want to piss anyone else off while I'm learning.

 

[Geddan]

i have a set i bought from sams club, sounds horrible but it works for what it's worth until i can save up for something better.

for quality sound brand matters of course but what's going to matter more is the type of wood, number of plys, number of lugs, etc...


edit: but you can make any set sound at least half decent with the right combination of the right heads, right dampeners and such. usually it's the horrible overtones that kill the sound of cheap sets.

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

i have a set i bought from sams club, sounds horrible but it works for what it's worth until i can save up for something better.

for quality sound brand matters of course but what's going to matter more is the type of wood, number of plys, number of lugs, etc...


edit: but you can make any set sound at least half decent with the right combination of the right heads, right dampeners and such. usually it's the horrible overtones that kill the sound of cheap sets.

I'm thinking electronic until I can work my way to something better then I suppose.

 

[Geddan]

if you're going to go electronic, go with a roland td set

yamaha is alright too

anything else though is utter trash. take my word for it, i'm saving up for an electric set myself so i can practice at night since that's when i have the most free time. you also can't go wrong with how an electric set sounds either since even the cheap rolands have quality sounds.

 

[Maniclysane]

For the love of god don't buy an electronic.

You will ruin yourself. You will get the same sound regardless of what dynamic you're playing. Don't listen to these suggestions for an electronic drum set. You won't learn how to tune the drums, you'll end up with a layout that may fit for an electronic drum set, but in no way would fit the size of an acoustic drum set. Your kick drum will feel nothing like a kick drum.

Call me elitist, but electronic drum sets feel like toys.

 

[Geddan]

For the love of god don't buy an electronic.

You will ruin yourself. You will get the same sound regardless of what dynamic you're playing. Don't listen to these suggestions for an electronic drum set. You won't learn how to tune the drums, you'll end up with a layout that may fit for an electronic drum set, but in no way would fit the size of an acoustic drum set. Your kick drum will feel nothing like a kick drum.

Call me elitist, but electronic drum sets feel like toys.

i have to agree with this actually. nothing beats a real drum set, it's just so much more dynamic and sounds/feels so much more real.


sometimes electronic is the only option for some people though. :3

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

So it's not even a good recommendation just for practice?

 

[Maniclysane]

So it's not even a good recommendation just for practice?

After you learn on a real drum set.

Compare a guitarist that learned how to play with distortion on the whole time, compared to one who learned on an acoustic. Ones using distortion are hiding behind it to sound good. I'm just saying if you learn on a real drum set then you can play an electronic drum set, but it's not the same the other way around.

 

[the melon!!!!!]

After you learn on a real drum set.

Compare a guitarist that learned how to play with distortion on the whole time, compared to one who learned on an acoustic. Ones using distortion are hiding behind it to sound good. I'm just saying if you learn on a real drum set then you can play an electronic drum set, but it's not the same the other way around.

^^ couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

That makes a lot more sense to me now. So then I may as well learn on a real drumset, then.

 

[Geddan]

yeah just get a really cheap one to work on till you get better, wearing sound protection ironically makes horrible cheap sets sound better, just fyi.

 

[Miamisportsfan45]

yeah just get a really cheap one to work on till you get better, wearing sound protection ironically makes horrible cheap sets sound better, just fyi.

Oh, without a doubt. Anything to muffle bad sound makes it sound more compressed. I work with music, so I understand the whole concept.